【09.12.03 ABC新闻】皮尤调查: 孤立主义和中国崛起
本帖最后由 vivicat 于 2009-12-5 23:29 编辑【原文标题】Pew Poll: Isolationism and China Rising
【中文标题】皮尤调查: 孤立主义和中国崛起
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【译者】rlsrls08
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【原文】
Pew Poll: Isolationism and China Rising
December 03, 2009 10:15 AM
Two unsettling findings in the latest Pew survey caught my eye this morning.
For the first time in forty years of polling, a plurality of Americans -- 49 percent -- think the US should "mind its own business internationally.". Not surprising that the country is turning inward during tough economic times, but this is still a dramatic number.
Matched only by this: for the first time a plurality of Americans -- 44 percent -- see China as the world's leading economic power. Only 27 percent name the U.S.
Just last year, the US was at 40 percent -- ten points ahead of China.
That jolt of confidence President Obama brought to the country last year has faded fast.
Read the rest of the Pew findings HERE.
皮尤调查: 孤立主义和中国崛起
今天早上，皮尤研究中心最新的两个调查结果引起了我的注意。
四十年来第一次，受调查的大多数美国人( 49%)认为美国应该“在国际上专注自己的事务”。这毫不奇怪，在经济困难时期，美国正在转为内向，但49%仍然是一个巨大的数字。
与之相配的：第一次，大多数美国人(44%)将中国视为世界最主要的经济大国。只有27%的人认为美国是。
就在去年，美国的得票率是40%，领先中国10个百分点。
去年奥巴马总统给这个国家带来的信心消退得真快呀。
皮尤报告全文连接在这里
背景资料:
这篇文章发表在"乔治的底线(George's Bottom Line)"博客。乔治 斯特凡诺普洛斯(George Stephanopoulos)是美国广播公司(ABC)驻华盛顿首席记者，报道政治，国会和白宫的活动。同时主持一个节目叫“本周(This Week)”。每周日在"本周"栏目里，他采访顶级的新闻人物，讨论了本周发生的活动，并期待下一周。 本帖最后由 j小蜜蜂 于 2009-12-4 13:44 编辑
读者评论我就不一条一条翻译了，只说个大概意思。
This country has gone downhill, because we allowed Coporate America, to send all of our manufacturing off shore, sacrificing the jobs and well being of citizens.
Most ordinary Americans get that. It is government that doesn't get it.
Government must take action to provide incentives for American companies to produce in America. Plain and simple.
Americans, must stop buying what is cheapest, and they must start buying American, once again. It is in their overall best interest, to buy less, and buy American.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | Dec 3, 2009 10:45:39 AM
大意: 抱怨美国大公司把制造业外包，牺牲了工作岗位和市民的利益。美国政府必须采取行动保护本国的工作，号召美国人拒绝购买便宜商品，只买美国生产的东东。
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Many Americans dream of living in Russia where you still have the Liberty to "drink one for the road".....whereas in America it would put you in jail, raise your insurance to crazy high levels, and put a negative hit on your record.
Pretty sad when the Communists appear to have more Liberty than Americans don't you think?
I wonder how much Liberty those Chinese have? Can't be more restricted than we are by our Government.
Posted by: Phil | Dec 3, 2009 10:56:37 AM
大意: 在俄罗斯人们有酒后开车的自由，在美国酒后开车就得入狱，保险涨价和记录在案。共产主义国家--中国--一定比美国还自由。美国政府管太多了。
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It's rathern naive to point fingers at coporate america. Take GM as an example, it's really easy for us to blame companies like GM to invest in China -- therefore, shipping jobs overseas. For GM, however, it's a game of survival. GM is losing over $1,000 each vechicle it makes here in North America. However, it's making billions of dollars of profit in China. Without profits from China and other countries, GM would have been dead. which means tens of thousands people who're still working for GM today in the US would have vanished. As I see it, it all comes down to competitiveness.
GM would be the greatest auto maker again in the universe if it could beat the Japanese in quality, the Chinese in cost of operations. It's really what capitalism is all about: you'll die if you can't compete.
Posted by: Adrian | Dec 3, 2009 11:29:20 AM
大意: 不同意归咎于大公司。不能轻松地指责它们，比如通用汽车公司，它投资中国乃是为了生存。通用在北美每制造一辆汽车就损失超过1000美元。投资中国虽然给中国带来了极大的利润。但不这么做通用就死了。
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Americans are simply wising up to where this Administration is taking us. Yes, the honeymoon is over!
Posted by: Bill | Dec 3, 2009 11:33:24 AM
大意: 美国人最傻了，政府让他们去哪就去哪。蜜月结束了。
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The plan (international socialism) has always been the deflating of America and the inflating of the under developed world. That is what Outsourcing is and that is what Cap and Trade is. Wakeup, One world government is here and it is not based in Democracy or "one man one vote". It is based in "elitism and privilege" vs "fall in line and shut up."
Posted by: JonEAppleSeed | Dec 3, 2009 11:42:26 AM
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The problem is the average american has become spoiled with a credit fix way of life and have become accustomed to not having to work hard to get what they want. Another problem is people who control great wealth and its given to the family in the end just screw up that generation of kin. How many times have you seen a 16 year old driving a benz to high school? Its a struggle between the rich and poor in this country. Everyone wants the nice things but isn't willing to work like china to get it. Suck it up america and work hard.
Posted by: will | Dec 3, 2009 12:17:47 PM
大意: 美国人被宠坏了，习惯于不劳而获。有钱人没有好好教育下一代。每个人都不愿意象中国一样为了得到好的东西而努力。
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the price of our interventions around the globe has been staggering, both monetarily and socially. the polarization of the nation that has accompanied the nation's foreign strategies in the last decade brought this on. but shall the admin. respond? shall we focus on home and hearth and ignore foreign struggles? don't bet on it...
Posted by: patrick ryan killeen | Dec 3, 2009 12:18:34 PM
我们在全球干预他国付出了令人震惊的代价，我们应该关注家庭和健康，忽略外国的斗争。
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Got news for one and all. Americans traditionally and historically have been isolationist. Leave us alone, King George III!
Posted by: John2010 | Dec 3, 2009 12:27:31 PM
(不同意作者乔治的看法)，美国人本来,一直以来就是孤立主义者。
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I think isolationism is an incorrect interpretation of America "minding its own business internationally." I am an American Expat living between Honduras and London, and I hardly feel like the US should withdraw from the rest of the world, but I do believe that America should let other countries make their own decisions. There's a big difference.
Posted by: David | Dec 3, 2009 1:04:29 PM
我想"孤立主义"这个词不等于"在国际上专注自己的事务"。我不认为美国应该从世界各地撤军，但我相信美国应该让其他国家做自己的决定。
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JohnEappleseed....you got it half right. The path were set in the 1980's by Ronald Reagan, when the outsourcing and Deregulation began, the fall of our Auto companies, and the anger that continues today fueled by the Republicans to burst unions, so the American workers are at the will of the employers only. They threaten to leave the country if the policies weren't changed back then. (to pay what they please, without benefits or healthcare) Why do you think the Minimum Wage was an issue? Why do you think Hough, American Motors, Johnson Motors, Sara Lee and all of the such companies only has a fraction of their companies remaining in America? (tax breaks) These were the jobs that built this country with Middle Class Hands! In my late 50's, I REMEMBER when, how and who! The point...Ronald Reagan enacted laws and policies to create 2 class of people in America....Rich and Poor. Now that's Socialism! Now isn't that's how China is ran. Except, they did have a plan to keep their "minions" with minimum wage jobs. INSTEAD OF USING THE WORD "SOCIALIST" TRY "TRICKLED-DOWN"(DOWN, DOWN, DOWN)> SOCIALISM IS BEEN BEAT INTO YOUR BRAIN BY THE REPUBLICANS TO TAKE THE FOCUS OFF THEM, THAT CREATED THIS MESS BY THEIR HERO...RONALD REAGAN. STOP BEING STUPID!
Posted by: sara | Dec 3, 2009 1:11:52 PM
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Education in China is VALUED for all. Even Cuba educate their own..even they know that a Strong Country depends on education and wealth....Not just Military Might! Now we can barely maintain that monetarily. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING! TAX CUTS TO THE Wealthiest Americans can't hold up the REMAINING 99%. THEY STOP CREATING JOBS AND POCKET THEIR WEALTH AND HIDE IT OVERSEAS IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. NOW THE SYSTEM THAT WERE CREATED IN THE 1980'S THAT WE SEE THE END RESULT TODAY WERE DUMB, DUMB, DUMB!
Posted by: sara | Dec 3, 2009 1:18:39 PM
中国人看重教育，一个强大的国家依靠教育和财富...而不是军事力量。现在我们连财富都维持不了。他们在想什么!!! 给最富有的美国人减税，然后富人缩减工作机会，把钱装进口袋，放到海外藏起来。80年代建立的这个系统我们今天看到它的结果是蠢!蠢!蠢!
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Poor Sara with her quote "isn't this how China is ran" shows why industry does not want to be here. Our education system is pathetic because we cater to bring a "minimal education" to everyone. Without a highly skilled and highly educated population we are doomed. In the manual labor market with all our laws, minimum wage, benefits, etc. we cannot compete.
Posted by: JACK | Dec 3, 2009 1:40:25 PM
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Right on sara.
I just don’t understand how Republican voodoo math works. A pathetic 5 Million new jobs were created over the past 8 years. And don’t forget this
recession began in 2007, right after almost a decade of supply side tax cuts and financial deregulation.
Today millions of the middle class live paycheck to paycheck, frightened that a medical problem or a layoff will destroy a lifetime of work.
One in eight Americans is on food stamps.
Over 120,000 families are filing for bankruptcy EVERY month.
And, $5 Trillion has disappeared from middle class pensions and savings.
Back in the 60s, America’s middle class income jumped 33% (adjusted for inflation) – but during the booming 2000s, families gained a teensy 1.6% income increase.
So what happened to all our nation's wealth? Take a close look at the financial industry that is supposed to serve us. For decades this industry has reaped Billions selling new fangled credit, inventing “fees”, and gambling with products like “swaps”. When their shady practices helped trigger our current financial crisis, the financial industry came to Washington for a handout, paid for by the peons. And now their powerful lobbies want to preserve the rules that got us into this mess.
Anyone who howls that new government banking regulations means “socialism” has been duped.
Posted by: CenterOne | Dec 3, 2009 1:58:42 PM 本帖最后由 rlsrls08 于 2009-12-4 05:56 编辑
另外一篇相关的新闻
http://www.timeslive.co.za/news/world/article219635.ece
Americans see diminishing role in world, China's riseDec 3, 2009 7:21 PM | By Sapa
Americans increasingly view the United States as playing a less important role in the world and as many as half expressed the desire to become more isolated from global affairs, according to a poll released.
The Pew Research Centre poll found that 41 per cent of Americans believe the US plays a weaker role in the world than it did 10 years ago, the highest number ever shown by the survey.
Meanwhile, 44 per cent of Americans view China as the world's leading economic power while only 27 per cent named their own country. The numbers reflect the poor US economy and China's growing control of the US national debt.
There is also rising isolationist sentiment. Forty-nine per cent of Americans - an all time high in the poll - believe the United States should "mind its own business internationally and let other countries get along the best they can on their own."
In the wake of President Barack Obama's decision to deploy 30,000 additional troops to Afghanistan, 57 per cent of those surveyed said the war is not going well. {:12_538:} 【原文标题】Pew Poll: Isolationism and China Rising
【中文标题】皮尤调查: 孤立主义和中国崛起
【登载媒体】ABC NEWS 美国广播公司新闻
【来源地址】http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/ ... -china-rising-.html
That jolt of confidence President Obama brought to the country last year has faded fast...
rlsrls08 发表于 2009-12-4 04:56 http://bbs.m4.cn/images/common/back.gif
应该是说奥巴马带给美国的信心消退得很快吧 第一次，大多数美国人(44%)将中国视为世界最主要的经济大国。只有27%的人认为美国是。
这个数字虽是第一次出现，但仍难以令人置信。不知有没有更具体的说法？在美元还是主导货币之时，在美国还是唯一的超级大国之时，这些美国人又因为什么会做出如此评价
应该是说奥巴马带给美国的信心消退得很快吧
jerrywu 发表于 2009-12-4 09:16 http://bbs.m4.cn/images/common/back.gif
谢谢你指出我的错误!! ZT: 美国人的天真：中国经济最强 美国军事最强
联合新闻
位于美国华府的独立民调机构「皮尤研究中心」（Pew Research Center）3日表示，根据最新的调查结果，44%的美国人认为中国是现今全球首要经济强权，只有27%认为美国是首要经济强权。
全球金融风暴于去年8月开始从美国蔓延开来，在去年2月的调查中，尚有41%美国民众认同美国是世界首要经济强权，但最近的调查结果跌至27%；相较而言，原本认为中国是世界首要经济强权的美国民众却从30%上升至44%。53%的美国人认为，掘起的中国对美国构成威胁，但仍有63%的美国人认为美国是世界的主要军事强权。
除了中国的经济地位让美国民众感同身受外，「皮尤研究中心」指出，美国「孤立主义的情绪飙升至40年来的新高。」49%受访者表示，美国应该「在意自己的事」，让其它国家以它们能够採取的最好方式发展。这个数字比2002年12月的30%大幅成长。
调查显示，只有32%的受访者支持增兵阿富汗，40%受访者认为应该减少在阿富汗的美军兵力。欧巴马1日宣布将增派3万美军前往阿富汗，以对抗神学士和凯达恐怖组织。「皮尤研究中心」的民调结果与欧巴马的决策出现衝突。
41%的受访者认为，比起10年前，美国现在扮演一个较不重要或较不强力的世界领导者角色。皮尤研究中心总裁柯胡特表示，「非常糟糕的经济」似乎是孤立主义情绪上涨的最主要原因，民众「对我们正在伊拉克和阿富汗进行的两场战争感到不悦。」 楼主辛苦！ Q76)Q76) 美国人就是这样一惊一乍的啦 中国跟美国根本不是一个级别的，中国面临的问题比美国复杂的多， 大意: 在俄罗斯人们有酒后开车的自由，在美国酒后开车就得入狱，保险涨价和记录在案。共产主义国家--中国--一定比美国还自由。美国政府管太多了。
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我觉得，中国在酒后驾车方面倒是应该和美国学习
谁给他们剥夺别人生命的权利？ 多看看再说～在捧中国的又一把戏 中国跟美国根本不是一个级别的，中国面临的问题比美国复杂的多，
liuyu39 发表于 2009-12-4 20:38 http://bbs.m4.cn/images/common/back.gif
头脑是清醒的！ 一时失意而已，国人不要太认真。美国的GDP仍然几倍于中国，军事力量仍然领先中国10年以上，政治力量更远大于中国。不过是美国媒体最近炒中国话题太多了而已。 CNN上的我还截图了呢，哈哈 美国人就是这样一惊一乍的啦
estelleljb 发表于 2009-12-4 20:12 http://bbs.m4.cn/images/common/back.gif
中国人的敏感度更高一些吧
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