(9.12FT)亲爹亲娘都不如中国亲! 中国再一次成为救世主
本帖最后由 diver18 于 2011-9-13 07:44 编辑中英文不大对应。
September 12, 2011 8:20 pm
Italy turns to China for help in debt crisis
By Guy Dinmore in Rome
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/90c4c7f6-dd54-11e0-9dac-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1XmjEZWWx
Italy’s centre-right government is turning to cash-rich China in the hope that Beijing will help rescue it from financial crisis by making “significant” purchases of Italian bonds and investments in strategic companies.
According to Italian officials, Lou Jiwei, chairman of China Investment Corp, one of the world’s largest sovereign wealth funds, led a delegation to Rome last week for talks with Giulio Tremonti, finance minister, and Italy’s Cassa Depositi e Prestiti, a state-controlled entity that has established an Italian Strategic Fund open to foreign investors.
Italian officials were in Beijing two weeks ago to meet CIC and China’s State Administration of Foreign Exchange (Safe), which manages the bulk of China’s $3,200bn foreign exchange reserves. Vittorio Grilli, head of treasury, met Chinese investors in Beijing in August. Italian officials said further negotiations were expected to take place soon.
The possibility of Chinese investment comes at a critical moment for Italy, as markets demand increasingly high yields to buy Italian public sector debt, projected to reach 120 per cent of GDP this year, a ratio second only to Greece in the eurozone.
Mr Tremonti has written extensively in the past about his fears of China’s “reverse colonisation” of Europe. But he has been driven to seek new alternatives as Europe prevaricates over strengthening its bail-out fund and the European Central Bank warns that its month-old bond-buying programme cannot go on indefinitely. In a reflection of Italy’s refinancing problems, the treasury on Monday sold €11.5bn of short-term notes at higher yields.
European analysts were cautious over the outcome of talks. Despite Beijing’s numerous expressions of confidence in the creditworthiness of countries such as Greece and Portugal analysts say Chinese purchases of peripheral European debt have been relatively small.
How much of Italy’s €1,900bn of debt is already held by China is unclear, though one Italian official told the FT that Beijing held about 4 per cent.
Italy’s debt crisis has forced the government to consider possible sales of strategic stakes in companies such as Enel, the Italian power utility, and Eni, the oil and gas multinational.
Cassa Depositi e Prestiti is a founding member of the informal “long-term investors club” along with similar institutions in France and Germany. In July it launched its Italian strategic fund with an investment of €4bn that it plans to expand to €7bn with participation from other sources, including foreign institutional investors.
CIC was set up in 2007 with capital of $200bn and its assets under management now total about $410bn. It says it “maintains a strict commercial orientation and is driven by purely economic and financial interests” and that it is committed to “high professional and ethical standards in corporate governance, transparency and accountability”. China’s embassy in Rome had no immediate comment.
FT称中国可能购买意大利国债 美股大反转
时政 2011年09月13日 05:49 文 / 吴晓鹏
http://wallstreetcn.com/node/5665
中国再一次成为全球市场的救世主。在中国可能购买意大利国债的消息传出后，标普500指数从下跌1.6%变成了上涨0.7%。
据英国《金融时报》报道，意大利政府正转向中国，希望北京能够买“大量”意大利债券，将意大利从金融危机中拯救出来。
金融时报引述匿名意大利官员的话说，中投董事长楼继伟上周率领一个代表团访问罗马，与财政部长特雷蒙蒂(Giulio Tremonti)举行了会谈。
据FT，意大利官员说，预计很快会再次与中国举行会谈。
而意大利的国有实体机构Cassa Depositi e Prestiti已经成立了一个意大利战略基金，对外国投资者开放。
Cassa Depositi e Prestiti是一个非正式的“长期投资者俱乐部”创始成员，在德国和法国也有类似机构。该机构在7月份发起40亿欧元的意大利战略基金，并计划扩张到70亿欧元，希望包括外国投资者在内的来源能够投资该基金。
金融时报说，意大利官员两周前在北京与中投以及外管局的官员们曾有过会面。
意大利1.9万亿欧元的国债中，中国持有多少尚不清楚。但一位意大利官员告诉FT，中国大约持有4%的意大利国债，也就是说760亿欧元左右。
8月4日，路透社曾报道，意大利经济部长特雷蒙蒂(Giulio Tremonti)说，亚洲投资者不愿意购买意大利国债，因为他们看到欧洲央行没有买。
他说，“我们不明白欧洲是什么。如果你们的央行不购买你们的债券，为什么我们应该买？”
而意大利官员们周一向FT透露这条消息，周二意大利将发行70亿欧元的2018和2020年国债。
目前欧洲央行购买（PIIGS）的规模总量已经达到了1430亿欧元 中国的国债三年期利息才5.8%，希腊的国债一年期是94.5%。不知道意大利的国债利息是多少，估计要远高于中国。适当投点钱买点也可以，舍不得孩子打不到狼。 买很正常 问题是怎么保证安全性 这么高的利率？不可能吧？ 欧洲债务危机 呵呵，中国成了国际黄世仁啦？
就怕到时还不上债，“喜儿”们要革命咋办？ 春风满小城 发表于 2011-9-13 09:00 static/image/common/back.gif
这么高的利率？不可能吧？
利率和风险成正比例，利率越高，违约风险越高。希腊把利率调得高得离谱，也借不到钱，因为他快破产了。 本帖最后由 CHZHTONG 于 2011-9-13 17:41 编辑
有钱 为嘛不买点黄金白银 怎么也要多买点铁矿石呀 即便用不了 填海也行呀干嘛净买纸呀？
想不通知道单位买月饼是为了回扣 但好歹也是月饼 还能吃的 也没搞到买纸的地步呀
咱去买点意大利奢侈品 发给大家 这样是不是和单位买月饼差不多吧？ 利率成这样，再下去真得变成中国的一个省了-_-.... 说真的，无论是意大利这个国家、还是这个国家的国债，貌似都不大靠谱。只要贝卢斯科尼这个怪胎还在当总理、只要给了贝卢斯科尼这种怪胎当总理的机会的这个选举体制没啥实质性改变，这个国家就永远都不会太靠谱。 直接买有战略意义的产业，里拉贬值是大趋势，持有实物或对天朝重要的技术可以保值 意大利不靠谱+10086！！
意呆太尼玛不靠谱了啊！！兔子投资要谨慎啊！！咬手绢泪奔……
每当这时，平庸的我就只能默念，中央在下一盘很大的棋……
直接买地、买房，然后把一部分人的户口转到意大利，增加意大利的国内消费 发克cnn 发表于 2011-9-14 07:35 static/image/common/back.gif
直接买地、买房，然后把一部分人的户口转到意大利，增加意大利的国内消费 ...
好主意！当我国在意人口达到一定数量后，可以要求全民公投加入中国嘛！ wake_z 发表于 2011-9-13 14:12 static/image/common/back.gif
呵呵，中国成了国际黄世仁啦？
就怕到时还不上债，“喜儿”们要革命咋办？ ...
喜儿们可是各个不简单不但大棒挥的有力度 脸皮还一个比一个厚
再说他们早就干过集体作案的事经验丰富 奥黑他嗲 发表于 2011-9-13 22:20 static/image/common/back.gif
直接买有战略意义的产业，里拉贬值是大趋势，持有实物或对天朝重要的技术可以保值 ...
中国想买的 意大利肯卖吗？
欧洲人对中国可是严防死守 滔滔1949 发表于 2011-9-13 20:16 static/image/common/back.gif
说真的，无论是意大利这个国家、还是这个国家的国债，貌似都不大靠谱。只要贝卢斯科尼这个怪胎还在当总理、 ...
呃是不是欧洲人或是高盛又拿中国玩炒作呢？
之前在希腊不也这么干的吗最早说中国要大量买然后再爆料说假新闻（或是根本没买多少）
上次高盛可是赚翻了搞的欧盟都要调查高盛 滔滔1949 发表于 2011-9-13 20:16 static/image/common/back.gif
说真的，无论是意大利这个国家、还是这个国家的国债，貌似都不大靠谱。只要贝卢斯科尼这个怪胎还在当总理、 ...
。。//@FT中文网：“意大利财政部长特雷蒙蒂过去曾撰写大量担心中国对欧洲实行‘逆向殖民’的文章，但此刻他不得不在中国寻找救星。意大利官员称，特雷蒙蒂上周与到访罗马的中投公司董事长楼继伟进行了会谈。”
可惜尤文和米兰早不是意大利的了 个人能买外国国债吗？
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