diver18 发表于 2011-10-8 15:50

【路透111004】美国会议员:来自中国的网络间谍无法'容忍'

UPDATE 1-US lawmaker: China cyber espionage 'intolerable'
* Congressman urges U.S., allies to band together

* Says little doubt of China behind cyber attacks

* Companies reluctant to point finger at China (Adds comment from Ruppersberger, witnesses, background)
Tue Oct 4, 2011 3:51pm EDT
By Susan Cornwell
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/04/usa-china-cyber-idUSN1E7931PR20111004

WASHINGTON, Oct 4 (Reuters) - The chairman of the U.S. House of Representatives intelligence committee on Tuesday accused China of widespread cyber economic espionage and said many U.S. firms were afraid to come forward for fear their computers would be the targets of even more attacks.

"China's economic espionage has reached an intolerable level and I believe that the United States and our allies in Europe and Asia have an obligation to confront Beijing and demand that they put a stop to this piracy," Republican Representative Mike Rogers said at a committee hearing on cybersecurity.

"Beijing is waging a massive trade war on us all, and we should band together to pressure them to stop," he said in some of the strongest public accusations by a U.S. official on Chinese government involvement in cyber espionage.

The senior Democrat on the intelligence committee, Representative C.A. "Dutch" Ruppersberger, agreed. "We basically feel very strongly ... that we are being attacked in an aggressive way by China, possibly Russia, other countries," he said.

Internet giant Google (GOOG.O) partially pulled out of China last year after concerns of censorship and a hacking episode that it said originated from China.

A growing list of firms have faced cyber attacks, including Sony (8729.T), Lockheed Martin (LMT.N) and Citigroup Inc. (C.N). But it is often unclear where the hacking originated.

Rogers said companies that reported cyber attacks were "just the tip of the iceberg."

"There are more companies that have been hit that won't talk about it in the press, for fear of provoking further Chinese attacks," he said.

Behind closed doors, however, companies describe attacks that originate in China, he said.

While U.S. officials and firms point the finger at China for many cyber attacks, China says it is one of the world's biggest victims of hacking.

Former CIA Director Michael Hayden told the committee that the odds were greater of China quickly developing effective defenses to cyber attacks than the United States doing so, in part because China's political culture is so different.

"Attributing this espionage isn't easy, but talk to any private sector cyber analyst, and they will tell you there is little doubt that this is a massive campaign being conducted by the Chinese government," Rogers said.

NATION STATE PRIME SUSPECT

The representative of a company targeted by a recent cyber attack told the intelligence committee that it must have been committed by a nation state -- but did not name it.

"Our conclusion, especially in our discussions with law enforcement, is that this could not have been perpetrated by anyone other than a nation state," said Arthur Coviello Jr., executive chairman of EMC Corp (EMC.N)'s RSA security division.

Another witness, Kevin Mandia, told lawmakers that so much data was being taken from companies that the infrastructure involved had to be large and the activity was likely condoned by a nation state. Mandia is the chief executive officer of Mandiant, which helps companies respond to cyber attacks.

He said generally two regions were involved in cyber attacks: Eastern Europe and the Asia Pacific.

"The Eastern Europeans, generally it feels criminally motivated, it's to make money the short way. The Asia-Pacific intrusions seem to be more low and slow, very sophisticated, very persistent, harder to remediate. And we do see commonalities between those attacks," Mandia said.

After the hearing Rogers told reporters he was very concerned about plans by General Electric (GE.N) to have a joint venture with a Chinese aviation company, "given the (Chinese) track record" on intellectual property theft. (Additional reporting by Tabassum Zakaria; Editing by Xavier Briand)


中国的网络袭击——“不可容忍”

猪蹄儿小姐@译言http://article.yeeyan.org/view/252388/222328
于2011-10-08 14:54:39翻译

     华盛顿,10月4日(路透社电)——这周二美国众议院情报委员会主席指责中国肆意猖獗的网络经济间谍,并称很多美国公司都很害怕他们的电脑会遭受更多的袭击。

     “中国的经济间谍活动已经达到了无法容忍的地步,我认为美国极其在欧洲和亚洲的盟友有义务与北京交涉,要求停止这种侵害活动。”共和党代表麦克罗格斯在一场关于网络安全的委员听证会上说。

    “北京正在向我们所有人发动一场声势浩大的贸易战争,我们应该携起手来给他们施加压力,要求他们停止这种行为,”他引用了一位美国官员对中国政府在网络间谍问题上最严厉的措辞。
     情报委员会资深民主党人,C.A代表"Dutch" Ruppersberger也同意这个观点。“我们深深地感觉到,中国或者俄罗斯等一些国家以一种侵略性的方式攻击我们。”

     由于搜索内容的审查制度和网络黑客的存在,网络巨头谷歌在去年撤出了中国市场的部分业务。

     越来越多的公司面临黑客攻击,包括索尼,洛克希德马丁公司,花旗集团,但关于黑客的来路还不得而知。

      罗格斯说,这些公开声称受到黑客袭击的公司还只是所有受害者的冰山一角。

      他说:“还有很多受到网络攻击公司没有对外声明,他们害怕这样会招致更多来自中国的攻击。”

      然而,他说,这些公司在暗地里都称攻击来自中国。

      就在美国官员和公司指认中国发起了这么多黑客攻击时,中国却大声喊冤,称其自己才是世界上最大的黑客袭击受害者。

      CIA的前负责人迈克尔海顿告诉委员会,要建立一个对抗网络袭击的有效防御体系,中国比美国的胜算更大,速度更快,其中一部分原因是由于中国的政治文化与美国不同。

     “要查找间谍的来源并不简单,但你问任何一个私人领域的网络分析师,他都会告诉你,这背后很有可能是中国政府一手发动的大规模间谍运动。”罗格斯说。

头号嫌疑国

      来自近期遭受了网络攻击的某个公司的代表告诉情报委员会,这一定是某个国家行为,但他并没有说是哪个国家。

     “特别是经过与执法部门讨论后,我们得出的结论是,这样的网络袭击只可能是国家行为,”易安信信息安全部门的执行主席小亚瑟科菲罗说。

      另一个目击者克林曼迪亚告诉国会议员,从受害公司收集到的众多数据来看,制造这些袭击行动所涉及到的基础设施很庞大,很可能是国家的许可和纵容。曼迪亚是Mandiant公司的首席执行官,该公司协助企业应对网络攻击。

      他说牵涉网络袭击的地区主要有两个:东欧和亚太。
 
     “东欧的黑客似乎是出于某种犯罪目的,为了在最短的时间内大赚一笔。而来自亚太地区的行动较为缓和,他们很细腻,持续性强,也更难补救。但我们还是看到了两者之间的共性。”曼迪亚说。

      听证会之后罗格斯告诉记者,他对通用电气公司将与一个中国的航空公司组建合资企业的计划很担心,“考虑到他们(中国方面)在知识产权剽窃上有前科”,他说。

抑郁的蓝 发表于 2011-10-8 18:02

{:soso_e162:}美国到处搜罗情报,却舔着脸骂中国!

zhuxi_2008 发表于 2011-10-8 18:05

拿不出证据,莫须有的罪名

ossdownloader 发表于 2011-10-8 18:09

我们也对wt表示不能容忍,不知道国家安全部门的大爷们意下如何

fuhexinqd 发表于 2011-10-8 18:38

脸皮真够厚的!

三水君 发表于 2011-10-8 19:49

:有证据吗?
: may be

莫说 发表于 2011-10-8 20:14

无图无真相啊!没有证据,说出来只能说它很幼稚!

221122net 发表于 2011-10-8 20:34

"黑鹰坠落“的事让美国佬再不敢在索马里“猖狂”。我看是我们的高层太过“韬光养晦”所以才有“它们”无理干涉和指责我国。

jack_j11 发表于 2011-10-8 20:59

不能容忍就去吃屎吧。

沐霜 发表于 2011-10-8 21:00

借口

meggjodie 发表于 2011-10-8 21:47

抑郁的蓝 发表于 2011-10-8 18:02 static/image/common/back.gif
美国到处搜罗情报,却舔着脸骂中国!

这就是他们的强盗逻辑。

chenperu 发表于 2011-10-8 22:01

很害怕啊,说不定霉菌会以这个理由打击中国的,就像说伊拉克有大规模杀伤武器一样,:'(

敬扬 发表于 2011-10-8 23:15

想吵架么?

墨子的咸菜 发表于 2011-10-8 23:38

国内矛盾想往国外转移,中国是最好的目标。美国巴不得中国与周边国家开战,作壁上观,渔翁得利。

简唯翎 发表于 2011-10-9 01:15

原来中国黑客这么牛逼
╮(╯_╰)╭空口无凭哟亲

10的112次方 发表于 2011-10-9 04:00

如果那些不去选择光明未来的人还要在进程中从中作梗,那么他们最终会被强大的光明所降伏。

导弹与捣蛋 发表于 2011-10-9 08:09

本帖最后由 导弹与捣蛋 于 2011-10-9 08:10 编辑

议员总是要挑点话题的,否则怎么能证明自己的存在

华尔街是不能说的,阿富汗说了是要倒霉的,所以拿这个老生常谈,肯定没错

diver18 发表于 2011-10-9 08:16

ossdownloader 发表于 2011-10-8 18:09 static/image/common/back.gif
我们也对wt表示不能容忍,不知道国家安全部门的大爷们意下如何

能先阐释 wt 的 意思吗?

fanancai 发表于 2011-10-9 09:09

diver18 发表于 2011-10-9 08:16 static/image/common/back.gif
能先阐释 wt 的 意思吗?

网特。网络特务。

diver18 发表于 2011-10-9 09:16

fanancai 发表于 2011-10-9 09:09 static/image/common/back.gif
网特。网络特务。

感谢解答!
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