lilyma06 发表于 2012-1-13 16:26

【路透0113】塔利班称美军辱尸视频不会影响双方谈判

【原文标题】Taliban say Marine tape won't hurt Afghanistan talks
【中文标题】塔利班称美军辱尸视频不会影响双方谈判
【登载媒体】路透社

【来源地址】http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/13/us-afghanistan-usa-urination-idUSTRE80A2D720120113

【译者】lilyma06

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一段美军士兵向塔利班死者尸体上撒尿的视频在阿富汗引起了不满,周四美国称会调查此事件,但是叛军组织称这不会影响正在开始的和平谈判。
这段视频在YouTube和其他网站上发布,视频中四位穿着迷彩海洋作战服的男子朝三具塔利班尸体上撒尿。其中一人笑称:“哥们,好好过啊! ”另一个嘴里讲着猥亵的笑话。
阿富汗总统卡尔扎伊谴责这段视频,称这些人的行径简直是“非人性的”,并在周四的声明中要求进行调查。
美国国防秘书利昂·帕内塔致电卡尔扎伊,谴责视频上的行径,并要求立刻调查此事件,五角大楼称。美国军官Martin Dempsey上将称视频上的行径是非法的。
美国军方至今已确认视频中4位中的两名身份,一位海军陆战官员告诉路透社,并称这些图像真实可信。
这段视频很有可能在阿富汗引起强烈的反美情绪。而随着外国军队逐渐撤军,该事件有可能使的和解的进程变得更加复杂化。
阿富汗政府高级和平委员会军官对路透社称,“该行径可能会给和平努力造成非常非常糟糕的影响。”
本周美国奥巴马政府开展新的一轮的穿梭外交,几个月的努力促成会谈后看到了一线希望。
奥巴马政府对阿富汗和巴基斯坦的特派代表Marc Grossman将会跟卡尔扎伊、土耳其、沙特阿拉伯和阿联酋的高层官员进行会谈。
对于塔利班来说在卡塔尔的海湾国家建一个政治办事处是一项首要目标。
视频泄露出来时有人担心这会在交战各方中影响重新树立信心,一名塔利班发言人称尽管这些图片很震惊,但是这段视频不会影响谈判进程以及可能的释放囚犯。
“我们清楚我们的国家已经被占领了。”他说,”这不是一个政治进程,所以这段视频不会对我们的谈判进程或是交换囚犯有影响,因为这些都是处于初步阶段的。”
担心更多的示威者
帕内特称他已下令海军陆战队以及以北约为首的国际安全援助部队指挥官调查此事,并称任何对此事负责任的都会受到惩罚。
“尤其危险的是这类视频可能会用于很多方式,可能会破坏我们在阿富汗的做法以及潜在的和解。这就是危险所在。”
白宫发言人Jay Carney称他还不清楚奥巴马总统是否已经看过这段视频。
有关于此消息尚未在阿富汗传播开来,在阿富汗电还是不十分普及的,互联网是仅限于对一群很小的城市精英开放,但是得知此视频上的内容的阿富汗人表示很恐慌。
“可能是由一段视频开山,但是会已整个国家的示威行走结束,严重的话或许会蔓延至全球。”44岁的Qaisullah说道,他在喀布尔的清真寺有一家商店。
反美情绪已经高涨并已经有了一阵,近年来在阿富汗已有多次的暴力冲突。对穆斯林圣经的亵渎报道已经引起了两次十分严重的骚乱。
这段视频在中东地区和互联网聊天室中也引起了骚乱,并使人们联想起早前美军士兵在伊拉克虐囚丑闻以及在阿富汗杀害手无寸铁的平民的丑闻。
“这体现了弱肉强食。对于美国人来说不新鲜,这只是给阿布格莱得监狱上又抹了一笔。这是违反伊斯兰教和穆斯林神圣的。”的黎波里的45岁的Othman al-Busaifi说道。

       

                                                        U.S. Marines probe video of men urinating on Taliban corpses







                        http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20120113&t=2&i=557788225&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=BTRE80B1E3200          
                By Mirwais Harooni and Phil Stewart                KABUL/WASHINGTON |         Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:35pm EST      
   
(Reuters) - A video showing what appears to be American forces urinating on dead Taliban fighters prompted anger in Afghanistan and promises of a U.S. investigation on Thursday but the insurgent group said it would not harm nascent efforts to broker peace talks.
The video, posted on YouTube and other websites, shows four men in camouflage Marine combat uniforms urinating on three corpses. One of them jokes: "Have a nice day, buddy." Another makes a lewd joke.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai condemned the video, describing the men's actions as "inhuman" and calling for an investigation, in a statement on Thursday.
U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta telephoned Karzai to denounce the actions in the video as "deplorable" and to say it would be investigated immediately, the Pentagon said. General Martin Dempsey, the top U.S. military officer, said actions depicted in the video were illegal.
The U.S. military has identified two of the four Marines in the video so far, a Marine Corps official told Reuters, adding the Marine Corps believed the images were authentic.
But the Pentagon stopped short of offering an official confirmation that the video was real and Panetta said there was not yet a "firm conclusion" on the matter.
The video is likely to stir up already strong anti-U.S. sentiment in Afghanistan after a decade of a war that has seen other cases of abuse. That could complicate efforts to promote reconciliation as foreign troops gradually withdraw.
"Such action will leave a very, very bad impact on peace efforts," Arsala Rahmani, a senior member of the Afghan government's High Peace Council, told Reuters.
The administration of U.S. President Barack Obama, seeing a glimmer of hope after months of efforts to broker talks, is launching a fresh round of shuttle diplomacy this weekend.
Marc Grossman, Obama's special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, will fly into the region for talks with Karzai and top officials in Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
One immediate goal is to seal agreement for the Taliban to open a political office in the Gulf state of Qatar.
Despite concerns when the video emerged that it would not help efforts to build confidence among the warring parties, a Taliban spokesman said although the images were shocking, the tape would not affect talks or a possible prisoner release.
"We know that our country is occupied," he said. "This is not a political process, so the video will not harm our talks and prisoner exchange because they are at the preliminary stage."
CONCERN FOR MORE PROTESTS
Panetta said he had ordered the Marine Corps and the commander of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan to investigate and said anyone found responsible will be punished.
"The danger obviously is this kind of video could be misused in many ways not only to undermine what we are trying to do in Afghanistan but undermine the potential for reconciliation. There is a danger there," Panetta told reporters on a trip to Texas.
"But I think if we move quickly - if we conduct this investigation and hold these people accountable - we send a clear signal to the world that the U.S. is not going to tolerate that kind of behavior and it doesn't represent the United States as a whole."
General James Amos, the commandant of the Marine Corps, said in a statement the video "apparently depicts Marines desecrating several dead Taliban in Afghanistan."
He said he had asked the Naval Criminal Investigative Service to examine the incident and had set up another internal inquiry headed by Marine officers.
A Marine officer, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters that all of the Marines in question were believed to be from the 3rd Battallion, 2nd Marines, which is based in Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, at the time of the incident.
That unit served in Afghanistan from March to September 2011, the official said.
White House spokesman Jay Carney said he was not aware of whether President Barack Obama had seen the video.
News of the footage had yet to spread in Afghanistan - a country where a minority has access to electricity and the Internet is limited to a tiny urban elite - but Afghans who were told about what the tape appears to show were horrified.
"It may start with just video footage but it will end with demonstrations around the country and maybe the world," said 44-year-old Qaisullah, who has a shop near Kabul's Shah-e-dushamshera mosque.
Anti-American feeling has boiled over, or been whipped up, into violence several times in Afghanistan in recent years. Protests over reports of the desecration of the Muslim holy book have twice sparked deadly riots.
The tape also sparked anger across the Middle East and in Internet chatrooms, prompting reference to earlier scandals involving U.S. soldiers' treatment of prisoners in Iraq and the killing of unarmed civilians in Afghanistan.
"This is the embodiment of the strong assaulting the weak. It's nothing new for the Americans, it only adds to what they have done in Abu Ghraib prison. This a breach of the sacredness of Islam and Muslims," said Othman al-Busaifi, 45, in Tripoli.
The U.S. military has been prosecuting soldiers from the Army's 5th Stryker Brigade on charges of murdering unarmed Afghan civilians while deployed in Kandahar province in 2010 and cutting off body parts as war trophies.
"They cut off ears and fingers and keep them as medals, and urinate on bodies, then they talk about civilization," wrote user Abu Abdullah al-Janubi on one forum.
CRITICAL TIME
The video was released at a critical time for what U.S. officials hope might become authentic talks on Afghanistan's political future.
In Kabul, Grossman will seek approval from Karzai - whose support for a U.S. effort he fears will sideline his government has wavered - to move ahead with good-faith measures seen as an essential precursor to negotiations that could give the Taliban a shared role in governing Afghanistan.
The diplomatic initiative includes a possible transfer of Taliban prisoners from the U.S. military detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
A breakthrough would mark a milestone for the Obama administration, struggling to secure a modicum of stability in Afghanistan as it presses ahead with its gradual withdrawal from a long and costly war. The United States and its allies aim to withdraw combat troops by the end of 2014.




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paoding 发表于 2012-1-13 17:58

人所皆知,拉登也是美国大力培养出来的。。。

沐霜 发表于 2012-1-13 19:35

不是所有人都有“大局”关的

海无宁波 发表于 2012-1-13 22:44

不会影响是不可能的,但是可能给谈判的一方更多的筹码。
所以,对塔利班来说,好运来了。
而美国,屠杀平民、虐囚、辱尸,他们的地球卫士的光辉形象算是一扫光了。

河边人 发表于 2012-1-14 00:58

美军----也不是什么好鸟,与塔利班并无多大分别

温扒皮 发表于 2012-1-14 01:25

屠杀平民、虐囚、辱尸,这是塔利班一贯的伊斯兰文化,
美军尊重伊斯兰文化,入乡随俗,塔利班高兴还来不及呢。

yfct 发表于 2012-1-14 13:40

什么事情都有

fl53 发表于 2012-1-14 16:03

温扒皮 发表于 2012-1-14 01:25 static/image/common/back.gif
屠杀平民、虐囚、辱尸,这是塔利班一贯的伊斯兰文化,
美军尊重伊斯兰文化,入乡随俗,塔利班高兴还来不及 ...

问题是美国人说塔利班是恐怖主义   那美军是什么?   你这么扯关系你美国洋大人可不会愿意

温扒皮 发表于 2012-1-14 19:28

fl53 发表于 2012-1-14 16:03 static/image/common/back.gif
问题是美国人说塔利班是恐怖主义   那美军是什么?   你这么扯关系你美国洋大人可不会愿意 ...

美军是反恐怖主义,我这么扯你阿拉伯洋大人不愿意吗?

fl53 发表于 2012-1-14 20:59

温扒皮 发表于 2012-1-14 19:28 static/image/common/back.gif
美军是反恐怖主义,我这么扯你阿拉伯洋大人不愿意吗?

呵呵不是两个都一样吗?谁说的入乡随俗?

温扒皮 发表于 2012-1-15 01:18

fl53 发表于 2012-1-14 20:59 static/image/common/back.gif
呵呵不是两个都一样吗?谁说的入乡随俗?

只是个别入乡随俗

都一样,这事就结束了。塔利班还玩个P呀。

落非寒 发表于 2012-1-15 13:28

一个带着邪恶光环---“非法”入侵。
一个带着光荣光环---“合法”入侵

梅德韦杰夫 发表于 2012-1-15 14:31

美国人的尿液里有自由、民主、博爱

转基因的前世今生

http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMzExODAzODg4/v.swf

foxees 发表于 2012-1-15 15:24

所以说霉痢贱和塔利班就是警匪一家,目的就是要搞乱别人家!

随意而为 发表于 2012-1-16 14:55

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