新加坡人抗议政府移民计划：中共吞并新加坡，美利坚救我！
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(CNN) -- Singaporeans don't normally gather in public protest. Decades of single party rule and an iron hand when it comes to dissent has shaped a somewhat meek public. But a proposal by the government to allow more immigrants to come to Singapore in the next few decades to make up for a population shortfall has emboldened citizens to go public.
(CNN)--新加坡人不经常集会进行公开抗议。长达十年的一党专政和遇到分歧时政府的铁腕处理形成了一个某种程度上可称之为驯服的社会。然而，一个由新加坡政府提出的建议使得新加坡人走向了公众场所，这个建议是，在接下来的几十年内允许更多人移民到新加坡，以填补新加坡人口的不足。
On Saturday, several thousand Singaporeans gathered in a small downtown park near an area known as "Speaker's Corner" to vent their anger. Organizers estimated the crowd to between 3,000 and 4,000 and said it was the largest gathering since post-independence Singapore in 1965. Singapore police told CNN they don't give crowd estimates.
周六，几千名新加坡人聚集在市中心的一个小公园内，临近一片被称之为“演说者之角”的区域，发泄他们的愤怒之情。组织者估计集会人数在3000-4000人之间，并称这是新加坡自1965年独立以来最大的集会。新加坡警察告诉CNN他们不对集会者作评论。
At the heart of the issue is a so-called "White Paper on Population" recently issued by the government that proposes allowing the population to rise from 5.3 million to as high as 6.9 million by 2030 in order to keep the economy growing and to keep it a magnet country for business.
这个事件的核心是近期新加坡政府推出了所谓的“人口白种书”，其中建议截至2030年，允许人口从530万提升到690万，以保持经济增长和巩固新加坡的贸易地位。
The government also says foreigners are needed to take care of the country's own rapidly aging population.
政府还说吸收外国人同样有助于减缓国内飞速增长的人口老龄化情况。
Protesters on Saturday insisted they didn't fear foreigners but worry about the loss of Singaporean jobs to foreigners, depressed wages and overcrowding that has taxed Singapore's infrastructure, including housing and transportation. Protesters also say the government's plans will make them a minority in their own country.
周六，抗议者表明他们不害怕外国人，担心的是外国人的到来会使得新加坡人失业、工资降低，并且人口过多会加重新加坡包括房屋和交通在内的基础建设的负担。抗议者同时表明政府的计划会使他们在自己国家成为少数。
"Imagine a place where you can be a stranger in your own home," a protester said.
“想象一下吧，你在自己家里都像个陌生人。”一个抗议者说。
Like many developed nations, not enough people are having babies. For more than three decades, the country's fertility rate has been below replacement level, meaning Singaporeans aren't having enough babies to replace themselves. This has had a huge impact on a tiny country striving to be a booming economy.
和许多发达国家一样，新加坡的新生儿不多。超过三十年来，这个国家的出生率都低于死亡率，这意味着新加坡人没有足够的新生儿接替。对于一个致力于成为迅猛发展的经济体的小国家来说，这是巨大的冲击。
The government has relied on foreigners to fill executive ranks, as well as to perform low-wage jobs from construction to cleaning. While the country is one of the world's wealthiest, it also has an enormous income disparity between rich and poor. Protesters say Singaporeans would have more babies if they were more confident of their economic prospects, and that the government should rely less on cheaper foreign labor and improve the wages of Singaporeans.
政府希望依靠外国人来充实行政阶层，同时希望能解决那些低报酬的工作，比如建筑和清扫。新加坡是世界上最为富裕的国家之一，国民收入的贫富差距也十分巨大。抗议者说，如果新加坡人对新加坡的经济前景有更多信心的话，他们会生更多孩子的，政府不应该过多依靠廉价的外国劳动力，而应该提高新加坡人的工资待遇。
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mira path ? a day ago
Well done, my fellow Singaporeans! Outsiders will not understand the import of this protest - the fear barriers that are being overthrown- but we are finally taking baby steps to democracy.
干得好，我的新加坡同伴们！外人也许不能理解这次抗议的重要性——恐惧的藩篱正在被打破——我们正小心翼翼迈向皿煮。
dcepalewismira path ? 5 hours ago ?
Why you so like dat? Can, Can anyhow can. Scold them up and down!
（回复mira path）你就这么喜欢？不管怎样，我们能够，骂他们个狗血喷头！
Lexxvs ? 19 hours ago ?
The idea that economy growth is sacred and depended on population growth is faulty. No one can sustain such logic for the future of countries or the planet. It's like burning bits of your house to get through the winter, one day you have no house, but still a winter to face.
经济增长至上和依赖人口增长的观点是错误的。没有人可以因为国家或星球的未来而忍受这样的逻辑。这就好比把你的房子一角拆掉烧了过冬，等到你没有房子了，仍旧要面对冬天。
DCLexxvs ? 10 hours ago ?
But it's a fallacy that so many governments subscribe to. Russia and Japan to name but two. If economic growth was dependent on population size then India, Indonesia, Pakistan etc would be the strongest economies (along with China, USA etc).
There is a difference between size of economy and strength/health/security of economy. People's living standards, quality of life and happiness should be prioritized over the size of the economy.
（回复Lexxvs）但是这是一个很多国家都赞同的谬论。俄罗斯和日本就在其中。如果经济增长以来人口数量，那么印度、印尼、巴基斯坦等都会称为最强的经济体（和中美等一起）。
经济规模和经济力度/健康/安全之间有区别。人民的生活水平，生存质量和幸福指数应该比经济规模更优先考虑。
Hasie ? 21 hours ago ?
Long live Singaporeans! We have the right to say No for once after keeping quiet for so long... This is our homeland...this is our Singapore! 3-4K protest turnout is better than 0 protest. :)
新加坡人万岁！沉默了这么久，我们有说一次不的权利……这是我们的家园……这是我们的新加坡！3-4千个抗议比0个好。:)
shad shad ? a day ago ?
Please do not become like U.K or France or Holland or Sweden or Norway where there are many no go zones controlled by Immigrants from Middle East, Pakistan, Turkey, etc.
不要把我们的国家变得像英国、法国、荷兰、瑞典、挪威一样，到处充斥着从中东、巴基斯坦、土耳其等国过去的移民。
Johnny_Walshshad shad ? a day ago ?
I think it is too late for that. Immigrants and foreigners tend to stay together. Initially, when their numbers were smaller, they mixed with the locals. But as their numbers are much bigger now, they tend to group together in enclaves. And Singapore is just a tiny island, so the situation is really bad.
But that is why Singaporeans are protesting. If this White Paper becomes a reality and the population hits 7 million, Singaporeans will become a minority in their own country. As it is, many foreign managers discriminate against citizens when it comes to hiring and employ their own nationals.
（回复shad shad）我认为那就太晚了。移民和外国人更倾向于住在一起。最开始，当他们人数较少时，他们和当地人一起住。但当他们现在人数足够多了，他们就倾向于在飞地群居而住。新加坡只是一个小岛，所以这种情况太不妙了。
但是这也是新加坡人抗议的原因。如果这个白种书成为现实，人口猛增70万，新加坡人将在他们自己的国家成为少数势力。事实上，当涉及到雇佣他们本国人的时候，外国管理者将会歧视新加坡人。
SarahJohnny_Walsh ? a day ago ?
You are wrong because most Immigrants especially those from China and India(the large majority of immigrants) live in HDB flats. The government of Singapore ensures that HDB estates have a fair proportion of racial proportion as the national population; this has been done to prevent enclaves.
Furthermore, those immigrants who have been granted citizenship have to send their sons for National Service where regardless of race/origin/background Singaporeans form a solid bond.
（回复Johnny_Walsh）你错了，因为大多数移民，尤其是那些来自中国和印度的人（移民中的大部分）住在政府组屋里。
新加坡政府确保政府组屋的分配比率和国民人口的种族比率一致；此举正是为了防止飞地的出现。
再者说，那些被授权称为新加坡公民的移民者也要送他们的儿子去完成国民服役，在那里不管种族、出身、背景，所有的新加坡人都牢固地联系在一起。
Anita Lopezshad shad ? 20 hours ago ?
Please dont become like Australia and New Zealand where the white immigrants have shamelessly overpowered the local population.
请不要变得像澳大利亚和新西兰一样，那里白人移民者厚颜无耻地凌驾当地人之上。
EastAsianNationalistAnita Lopez ? 5 hours ago ?
Singapore isn't white. Save your stupid guilt and keep it in the west.
（回复Anita Lopez）
新加坡不是白人世界。把你的蠢话用到西方世界吧。
UnlikeYou ? 17 hours ago ?
I visited Singapore. Clean, quiet and safe. Certainly this would be eroded if immigration were to increase.
我曾经去过新加坡。干净、安静并且安全。如果移民增加的话，这些肯定会被破坏掉。
Baba LooeyUnlikeYou ? 7 hours ago ?
Singapore is rapidly reclaiming land from the sea. There will be plenty of room for new immigrants.
（回复UnlikeYou）新加坡正在开垦海洋下的土地。这将为新移民提供足够多额空间。
Daimler Altschuh ? 21 hours ago ?
If the stupid Singapore government have their way, Singapore will soon get overrun by PRC migrants.
如果愚蠢的新加坡政府按照他们自己的方式来，新加坡很快就会被中国移民接管。
Baba LooeyDaimler Altschuh ? 7 hours ago ?
Its your choice: produce more babies or face more immigration.
（回复Daimler Altschuh）你们自己选：生孩子或者接受移民者。
jonathanhuangDaimler Altschuh ? 15 hours ago ?
Singaporean is also Chinese, get yourself educated please!
（回复Daimler Altschuh）新加坡人也是中国人，多学习吧！
Ghadafi Husinjonathanhuang ? 14 hours ago ?
Singaporean is not Chinese..its a blend of chinese, malay, indian, eurasian....and the national language of Singapore is Malay and not Chinese...so go get yourself educated instead!
（回复jonathanhuang）新加坡人不是中国人……而是中国人，马来人，印度人，欧亚混血儿的混合……而且新加坡的当地语言也不是中文而是马来语……所以该学习的是你！
HSHMaximilianVonThurnUndTaxisGhadafi Husin ? 4 hours ago ?
What? The national language of Singapore is ENGLISH! You don't have to spend much time in Singapore to see how Singaporeans look down on Malaysians and view them as lazy subhumans, while at the same time envying their much lower cost of living, abundance of land, rich cultural traditions and their more relaxed, much happier family-centred lifestyle.
（回复Ghadafi Husin）什么？新加坡的当地语言是英语！在新加坡你不必花费太多时间就能看到新加坡人是如何俯瞰马来人，视他们为懒虫，与此同时却嫉妒他们物价低廉、土地充足、文化传统丰富，家庭生活更为放松与幸福。
Daimler Altschuhjonathanhuang ? 12 hours ago ?
You are the one that needs education. People of Chinese race are not all from PRC. Singapore born or Malaysia born Chinese have a distinct cultural difference from those of PRC, and they speak distinctly different dialects, and many of them don't speak mandarin. Singaporeans also have local born Indians, Malays, Eurasians, etc a mix pot.
（回复jonathanhuang）你才是需要接受教育的那一个。华人不全来自中国。新加坡马来人和新加坡华人和来自中国的人有着截然不同的文化，而且说着截然不同的语言，并且他们中的许多人都不说普通话。新加坡当地人中同样有印度、马来和欧亚混血等出身，这是一个混合的环境。
Stefan WesselsDaimler Altschuh ? 11 hours ago ?
But let's be honest, Singapore has maintained a 70% Chinese population... so it is multicultural (and it goes to great lengths to remind us of this), but there is one dominant racial group. Oh and I think the official language in Singapore is money, um I mean English.
（回复Daimler Altschuh）让我们诚实一点，新加坡有70%的中国人……
所以这是一个多文化的社会（而且它也在不遗余力地提醒我们这点），但是这是一个种族占主导地位的群体。噢我认为新加坡的官方语言是钱，呃我的意思是英语。
Daimler Altschuh ? 21 hours ago ?
The Singaporean government has lost the plot, and have become disconnected with the Singaporeans. They have also become too arrogant and are ignoring the plight of the citizens. Time to dump them .
新加坡政府已经丢掉了他的根，已经失掉了和新加坡人民的联系。政府已经变得过于傲慢自大，忽略了公民的处境。是时候推翻他们了。
CHINA NOT EQUAL ALL CHINESE FO ? 13 hours ago ?
Singaporeans in general do welcome foreigners to this land but the current situation here is that there are NEW SINGAPOREAN CITIZENS(mainly from China) is marginalizing the local and destablizing our social system such demanding our local Singaporeans or other nationalities/races to speak to them in MAINLAND Mandarin only - Singapore is a multi-cultural and multi-racial society and environment, since independence in 1965, English is our official language and we Singaporeans speak with a mixed of dialects and languages...but with the influx of almost 1M PRC Communist Chinese...we felt all over the places in Singapore people here people there speaking MAINLAND CHINA Mandarin !!! While, the young talented PRC Chinese are here robbing our local jobs by undercutting pays, bribing the employing managers, selling sex(some females only) to secure their jobs besides arming with many qualification some fakes some genuine....here in Singapore our people are felt we are now living in a foreign land!!! If you are a frequent travel, try this when you travel to our Changi airport...you will known whether you are in Singapore and China...many ground staff are from China PRC!!! To the rest of the nations, be very wary about the people you are hiring in your country....your own country must come first before taking other immigrants...your future will be canniblaized in a very short time!!!
God blesses Singapore and the rest of those non-China influenced nations!!!!
一般来说新加坡欢迎外国人的道来，但是现在的情况是现在有太多“新新加坡公民”（大多来自中国），他们使得我们的社会系统边缘化和不稳定化，要求我们当地新加坡人和其他民族/种族的人跟他们说话只能用“大陆”普通话，新加坡是一个多文化多种族融合的社会，自从1965年独立以来，官方语言就是英语，我们新加坡人使用多种多样的语言……但是随着将近10万中共的流入……我们觉得新加坡这里那里到处都有人说着“大陆”“中国”普通话！！！与此同时，中国的年轻人才掠夺我们当地人的工作，他们降低薪酬，向主管人员行贿，用卖淫（只有一些女性）来巩固自己的工作，而且还用许多资格证书武装自己，一些是真的，一些是伪造的……现在在新加坡，我们当地人觉得自己生活在外国的土地上！！！如果你经常旅行，可以来我们樟宜机场体验一下……你分不清自己是在新加坡还是在中国……许多地勤人员都来自中国！！！我要对其他国家的人说，当心你在自己国家雇佣的人……你自己国家的人必须要比移民更先考虑……你的未来将会在很短的时间内得到改变！！！
上帝保佑新加坡和除了中国以外的所有公民！！！！
Daimler AltschuhCHINA NOT EQUAL ALL CHINESE FO ? 5 hours ago ?
Yeah, and these new PRC migrants want to impose their way of living on other Singaporeans, like wanting to prevent the locals from cooking curry nd eating durians in their HDB apartments!
（回复CHINA NOT EQUAL ALL CHINESE FO）对，而且这些中国移民者还想把他们的生活方式强加到其他新加坡人身上，例如想阻止当地人在他们的政府组屋里做咖喱和吃榴莲！
Charles ? 12 hours ago ?
The most practical thing for these protestors to do is to go home and produce more babies. Need any help?
对于这些抗议者来说最现实的事情是回家去造人。需要帮助吗？
CHINA NOT EQUAL ALL CHINESE FO ? 14 hours ago ?
Part of this protest because there are too many PRC Chinese in Singapore. These PRC Chinese having hidden agendas & conspiring together to weaken this little island econonmically, socially and politically.....just with a 1M of PRC Chinese(Communist), politically, it will be enough to form its POLARIZED ACTION PARTY to overthrow the current ruling party and we suspect that these Communists had already infiltrated into our Singapore's government system and ruling party - mentally or physically!! We love peace and freedom....so please any supports from the USA will be welcome here to flush out those PRC Communists in our Singapore system - Singapore sits on a strategic location in SEA...the PRC Communists are eyeing it and trying to manipulate our Singapore government....so if there are any US political members do assist our people to confront our Singapore government on reviewing its "White Paper" please !!!
这些抗议一部分是因为在新加坡有太多中国人了。这些中国人隐藏了他们的日程，合伙密谋在经济上、社会上和政治上削弱这个岛国……只用了10万中国人。
中国人（中共），在政治上，已经足以形成两极分化的政党用来摧毁现在占统治地位的党派，我们怀疑这些共党分子已经渗透到新加坡的政府系统并统治了我党——在精神上和身体上！！我们热爱和平与自由……所以请美国来给我们支援，任何支援都受欢迎，把这些共党分子从我们新加坡系统内驱逐出去——新加坡在海洋上出于一个战略地位……中共正在虎视眈眈地看着新加坡，并试图操控我们的新加坡政府……所以如果有任何美国政治家在这个“白种书”上支援我们的人民，就赶快来吧！！！
GeneticsCHINA NOT EQUAL ALL CHINESE FO ? 10 hours ago ?
Is china communist, really? Seems like they are just trying to accumulate wealth. But then, who isn't ? We are afraid of them because they are not as nice and polite, or because they are shrewd business people ....
（回复CHINA NOT EQUAL ALL CHINESE FO）中国共党，是真的吗？看起来他们只是想积累财富。但话说回来，谁不是呢？我们害怕他们是因为他们不友好不礼貌，或者由于他们是奸诈的商人……
Noah Hochman ? 20 hours ago
Congratulations people of Singapore for coming together to protest.
However the level of detest towards immigrants I'm hearing here is the same thing we have here in the US towards people from Asia and the Pacific.
I say YES to immigration, everywhere! If goods and jobs are allowed to move across boarders, if information can do the same, so should people.
Hope to see you so in my neighbourhood friends in Singapore!
祝贺新加坡的人民聚集到一起进行抗议。
然而我在这里所闻的针对移民的憎恶，正和美国对亚太地区人民的憎恶是一个等级。
我同意移民政策，不管在哪！如果货物、货物和信息都能跨越边境，人们也应该能。
希望能在新加坡见到你我的邻居朋友！
Anti-AntiUSPropagandaNoah Hochman ? 18 hours ago ?
Our situation is entirely different.
（回复 Noah Hochman）我们的情况完全不同。 闭关锁国？
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