天空之城：中国三个月内建成世界最高楼

诺基亚

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Sky City: China to erect world's tallest tower in 3 months, building 5 stories a day

天空之城：中国将以每天建造五层楼的速度在三个月内建成世界最高楼

China has embraced the challenge of putting up the world's tallest building in only 90 days. The 838-meter skyscraper, dubbed Sky City, is set to house 17,400 people as well as a hotel, a hospital, several schools, offices and apartments.

中国已经接受了一个挑战：在90天内建成世界最高建筑。这一被人称为天空之城的838米高的摩天大楼，将容纳17,400人，包括一家酒店、一家医院、多所学校、办公室和公寓。

­Construction workers from the Broad Sustainable Building company are expected to build at a rate if five stories a day to meet the deadline. To speed the process up, they will reportedly use the 'prefabrication' technique in which blocks of the building are constructed offsite and then pieced together.

来自远大科技有限公司的建筑工人计划用每天五层楼的速度以如期完成该工程。为了加快速度，他们将使用“预制”技术，即在建筑工地之外预先建造大楼的各个构件，然后再组装到一起。

The skyscraper, located in Hunan Province's capital Changsha, will feature over 100 high-speed elevators, and is expected to be able to withstand a magnitude 9.0 earthquake.

该大楼落座于中国湖南省省会长沙市，将建有超过100部高速电梯，预计能抵抗里氏9级地震。

When completed, the building will be 10 meters taller than the Dubai landmark Burj Khalifa, the world's current tallest building, which took five years to build. China's Sky City is set to cost half as much as the Burj – about $630 million.

到完工时，该建筑将比目前世界最高建筑，迪拜的地标建筑哈利法塔还要高出10米，哈利法塔用了五年才建造完成。中国的天空之城的造价预计将只有哈利法塔的一半，约6.3亿美元。

China-based Broad Sustainable Building will employ several thousand workers for the ambitious

中国的远大科技有限公司将雇佣数千人来完成这一雄心勃勃的工程。

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Hindu Brahmin Bodhcong Pala (unregistered)November 25, 2012, 19:54
Runt people need city's. They are not Chinese, same as 1.1 billion out of 1.2 billion inside India. They invaded from the west and thefted Asian family names. They need city's & made India-China into The Land of Diarrehia.

发育不全的矮子们需要城市。他们不是中国人，就像印度12亿人里的11人一样。他们是从西方来的侵略者，只是盗用了亚洲人的姓氏的而已。他们需要城市，然后把印度和中国变成瘟疫大陆。



Skyscraper Index (unregistered)November 25, 2012, 20:00
China has officially hit the terminal phase of a speculative bubble.The skyscraper index. China is about to see an economic downturn.Which means that the USA's number one creditor will no longer lend.This means that the US economy will tank big time due to lack of foreign investments

按照摩天大楼指数来看，中国已经到了投机泡沫的最终阶段了。
中国经济就要走上下滑的道路了。这也意味着中国这个美国的最大债主将不会再给美国提供借款了。美国经济也会因为缺乏外资投资而低迷。

（译注：摩天大楼指数,摘自百度百科
一九九九年，德意志银行证券驻香港分析师安德鲁．劳伦斯(Andrew Lawrence)首度提出「摩天大楼指数」（Skyscraper Index）的概念，因为他发现到经济衰退或股市萧条往往都发生在新高楼落成的前后。宽松的政府政策及对经济乐观的态度，经常会鼓励大型工程的兴建。然而，当过度投资与投机心理而起的泡沫即将危及经济时，政策也会转为紧缩以因应危机，使得摩天大楼的完工成为政策与经济转变的先声。这一惊人发现被称为“百年病态关联”：大厦建成，经济衰退。故此，“摩天大楼指数”也被称为“劳伦斯魔咒”。）



Skyscraper Index (unregistered)November 25, 2012, 20:09
Given that this employs efficient technology, cost-effective building techniques and for a fraction of the cost, maybe the skyscraper index doesn't apply after all.
I like it how everything is assembled, not built.

既然使用了高效的、成本效益好的科技，花费相较（以前）来说只是一小部分。摩天大楼指数（在这里）很可能是不适用的。我喜欢预制然后组装的技术，而不是直接动土建造。



red fang (unregistered)November 25, 2012, 20:31
lol everything chinese is fake. The building wil be fake too.

哈哈，中国制造的都是假货。这个楼肯定也是假的。



Anon (unregistered)November 25, 2012, 22:22
Half the price at 20 times the speed. What will the stats look like in another 20 years? Quarter the price at 200 times the speed? Thats 9 days at $315 million . . . i can imagine high tech light weight reconstituted materials straight from landfills being used by then . . . The floorage and 'balconyage' of the pic doesn't look very impressive though. Perhaps higher ceilings and more balcony space would be more city like.

成本只有一半，速度却快了20倍。再过20年这些数字会变成什么样？四分之一的成本，200倍的速度？也就是说只花3.15亿美元，可以9天就造好这样的大楼。我能想象高科技到时候能直接把废渣再造成建筑材料。但是图片上的楼层面积和阳台面积并没有给人以深刻的印象。可能层高高点，阳台面积大点更有城市的感觉。



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teddyformusicNovember 25, 2012, 23:15
Skyscraper Index (unregistered) wrote in #2
China has officially hit the terminal phase of a speculative bubble.
The skyscraper index. China is about to see an economic downturn.
Which means that the USA's number one creditor will no longer lend.
This means that the US economy will tank big time due to lack of foreign investments.
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you could very well be right - regarding "economic downturn" ...
and china's new leadership is tasked with ensuring policies that do not drive china into "unsustainable development".
but i think that what we can term as "economic downturn" (admittedly my view is on the "optimistic side") - is really china SLOWING down its "development" -- from its past decade's "projections" such as "12 percent growth" etc...
and instead -- "soft land" into lower numbers "growth" as far as economic performance goes.....
this is - in terms of large economies - a vast difference from, for example, the US "growth" or what they like to "promise" in the USA as "recovery" -- for the next ten years (coinciding with China's NEW leadership for ten years) -- of 1 percent "growth" if THAt can even be called such a thing, with the USA's deep debts. (60 percent american holders, 40 percent foreign holders) --
we have to also remember that china's INTERNAL domestic "consumption" economy is far from having reached anywhere near american standards of consumption.........which is the OTHER part of any economy's performance outside of its exports.
i guess time will tell where their policies lead .

回复“按照摩天大楼指数来看，中国已经到了投机泡沫的最终阶段了。
中国经济就要走上下滑的道路了。这也意味着中国这个美国的最大债主将不会再给美国提供借款了。美国经济也会因为缺乏外资投资而低迷。”
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你很可能是对的——关于“经济衰退”……中国新的领导阶层的任务就是确保中国不致陷入“不可持续发展”。
但我想我们称为“经济衰退”的（无可否认的是我是站在积极一面的）其实是中国与过去十年以来类似“年增长12%”这样的“爆发性发展”速度相对的一种放缓。只要经济表现能够继续，取而代之（的政策）会是，（从爆发）“软着陆”至数字上更小的“成长”。
谈及大型经济体，这就是（中国和我们）最大的差异了，例如美国式的“增长”也即他们爱说的“复苏””：在背负着巨额债务(60%由美国人民持有,40%由他国持有)情况下仅有1% 的“增长”（如果他们能管那叫增长），还敢承诺下一个十年内（恰逢中国新一届领导在任的十年）经济“复苏”。
我们还要牢记中国国内的“消费”经济还远未达到美国的消费标准……这正是任何一个经济体除出口额之外的另一个绩效来源。
时间会证明他们的政策能带领他们走向何方。



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teddyformusicNovember 25, 2012, 23:25
Skyscraper Index (unregistered) wrote in #3
Given that this employs efficient technology, cost-effective building techniques and for a fraction of the cost, maybe the skyscraper index doesn't apply after all.
I like it how everything is assembled, not built.
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i don't recall which province it is, or city , but I read sometime ago that China was already building an entire city -- or based on an existing one -- to transform the entire area into the "sustainable" energy system......every single building, every single contraption, ..everything based on the sustainable energy systems.
i think it can also be surmised that the eventualy growing trade and interdependence between china and europe's largest economy -- Germany -- will focus , after trade and "dumping" differences are cleared up -- on more of the non-oil/fossil fuel based systems.
germany is , as of today, already 30 percent SOLAR powered - and projected to reach "comfortably" 80 percent by 2020......
china is well on its way as a leading "solar energy" giant even as it grapples with the "pains of growth" such as pollution......
in either case -- both germany and china -- considering that china has a 1.3 billion populace to consider "adjusting" towards solar and other efficient energy systems - already are far , far ahead of the USA for one part .
the way I see it -- CHINA is playing its cards in 2 ways as far as energy is concerned:
enabling itself to acquire the gas/oil reserves it needs - and eventually have them "cached" as "reserves" or other uses as technologies arise for such things for better use --
while at the same time focusing big time on "sustainables" -- such as wind, solar, ocean, wave and currents energy, etc...
and calculates that BY the time oil/gas reserves - in 100 years , say -- are much more depleted - still retain the "conduits" -- and reserves it bought rights to -- but can re-use them for other things --
WHILE already achieving greater "energy independence" from having become a leading Solar power producer. among other things.........
if china does that -- it becomes practically "untouchable" as a great power. imo.

回复“既然使用了高效的、成本效益好的科技，花费相较（以前）来说只是一小部分。摩天大楼指数（在这里）很可能是不适用的。
我喜欢预制然后组装的技术，而不是直接动土建造。”
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我不太记得这到底是哪个省还是哪个市了。不过我以前读过一段文字中提到中国已经在兴建一整个城市--是在现有城市的基础上（重建）--以便将整个地区（的能源系统）转变成为"可持续"的能源系统.......每个单一的建筑，每个单一的装置,..所有的东西都基于可持续性能源系统。
我觉得还可以最终推测到日益增长的贸易以及相互依存关系于中国与欧洲最大的经济体--德国会将会将焦点集中至--当清除了贸易和"倾销"的分歧后--更多的基于非油/化石燃料的系统的中国。
德国，到今天为止，太阳能供电已经达到(总电量的)30%，据预测，2020年时将达到"令人满意的"80%（太阳能供电普及率）。
中国也同样走在成为世界领先的"太阳能"巨人的路上。尽管它同时也在努力应对着"生长痛"，比如环境污染等问题.......
在任一例子--包括德国或者中国--考虑到中国有13-亿民众来通过"调整"实现太阳能和其他高效能源系统--已经是到目前为止，远远超过美国的整个部分（能源系统-太阳能）。
依我看--中国在能源方面将它的手牌（政策）兵分两路：
它需要（可以）通过自身来获得油/气体储备--那么最终则变成他们"缓慢存储"作为"储备"或其他用途伴随着更高技术用来更好地利用这些资源--在同一时间也可以专注于“可持续性”（能源）--例如风力，太阳能，海洋，波浪和电流能源等...
并且按照时间储备来计算油/气体储备量--如果以100年来计算，像是--大多数（能源）已经耗尽--但仍保留着“导管（源头）”--然后储备买权--但又可以把这些（能源）循环使用至其他的地方--从而可以实现除其他外更优秀的"能源独立"变成（全球）领先的太阳能电源生产商.
如果中国真这么做了--它几乎将成为一个"不可侵犯"的强力大国，就我个人看来为如此(译注：imo = in my opinion).



teddyformusicNovember 25, 2012, 23:27
red fang (unregistered) wrote in #4
lol everything chinese is fake. The building wil be fake too.
and you probably can't help but keep buying them in wallmart or the 99 cent corner store anyway -- since the USA DOLLAR and ITS FAKE "value" keeps dwindling by the day ........................

回复：哈哈，中国制造的都是假货。这个楼肯定也是假的。
虽估计你帮不到什么但无论怎么说你仍然可以在沃尔玛或1元店继续买他们的货--反正自美国美元和及其伪"价值"是按日萎缩的.



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teddyformusicNovember 25, 2012, 23:39
Anon (unregistered) wrote in #5
Half the price at 20 times the speed. What will the stats look like in another 20 years? Quarter the price at 200 times the speed? Thats 9 days at $315 million . . . i can imagine high tech light weight reconstituted materials straight from landfills being used by then . . . The floorage and 'balconyage' of the pic doesn't look very impressive though. Perhaps higher ceilings and more balcony space would be more city like.
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the chinese are "learning" from the rest of the world -- and VERY fast...
yes -- there have been and will be disastrous projects involved --
but that is part of the rise that they are making that is , whether by design or circumstance , simply far, far faster than ANY modern "empire" has ever achieved.
i mean -- it took the USA -- literally protected by oceans from ANY direct assaults (the british IN america already don't count, since it is against them that FELLOW europeans revolted) -- 300 years since "this..our Infant Empire" (George Washington's words) ..........
and in a mere 100 years of "supremacy" - more or less, despite being the "greatest" empire ever -- is already crumbling despite its delusions that it is not and never will........
China - -from "basket case of asia" up til 1970's took a mere 30-40 years to achieve global economic power -- and it is just the START of its "dragon awakening".

回复“成本只有一半，速度却快了20倍。再过20年这些数字会变成什么样？四分之一的成本，200倍的速度？也就是说只花3.15亿美元，可以9天就造好这样的大楼。我能想象高科技到时候能直接把废渣再造成建筑材料。但是图片上的占地面积和阳台面积看起来不是很大。可能层高高点，阳台面积大点更有城市的感觉。”
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中国正在向世界上其他国家“学习”——而且速度很快……
的确，在过去发生过豆腐渣工程而且在未来还有可能发生类似的现象，但是这构成了崛起中国的一部分，不管是有意的还是无意的，中国的崛起的速度都超过了当代世界上的任何“帝国”。
我的意思是——中国超越了建国300多年后的美国——“婴儿般的帝国”（乔治·华盛顿语）——由于受到大洋的阻隔的保护，所以可以使美国免受任何的攻击（在美国的英国人不算数，因为这些英国人很反对他们的欧洲老乡反叛美国）。。。。
美国在100年的霸权时间里，多多少少来说已经成为了世界历史上“最伟大”的帝国，但是现在美国已经日落西山，虽然美国自己还拥有一种假象觉得自己没有在衰弱并且永远也不会衰弱。。。。
中国——从“东亚病夫”至上世纪70年代只用了30-40年就获得了全球性的经济力量——而这只是“蛰龙觉醒”的开始。



teddyformusicNovember 25, 2012, 23:40
nd to the chinese - in the long scheme of things - it is merely "returning china to its proper role" that it always had -- being one of the great powers on earth for thousands of years.
the seldom discussed thing about china is:

而中国人的长期计划是“重新获得他们应得的地位”——作为地球上一个千年的大国。
我们很少讨论的关于中国的事情有：



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teddyformusicNovember 25, 2012, 23:49
i also wanted to add:
China -- as much as a "capitalist" country in its nature of being a country of merchants -- small private enterprisers, one might say -- has also at least as much BEEN a "socialist" country.
in many ways - it IS its culture - both a "private enterprising" culture, as well as a "collectivist" culture......
what the west or america do not understand is -- THEIR dogmatic obsession with ONLY "capitalism" and no other alternative simply does not apply TO china or even the rest of the world , unless the west IMPOSES it - which it has done -- .........
china is simply doing what china "has always done" as one of its top generals said some years ago :
"WE shall absorb what the world has to give that is good - and good for us -- but we shall NEVER be a western country.......china is, as she always has been, and alwasy will be --------- CHINA".
in perspective - while most other "empires" have gone by the wayside -- some as recently as Great Britain -- where china was already "the middle kingdom" eons ago while much of the west were still "tribes" --

我还想要增加几点：
可能有人会说中国至少现在被称为“社会主义”国家，其实中国差不多就是一个“资本主义”国家，他天生就是商人的国度，有小的私营企业。在许多方面，例如她的文化中不但包含着私企精神，还包含着集体主义文化、、、、
作为西方人、美国人不了解的是，自己只会武断的着迷于纯粹的资本主义，并没有留给中国或世界其他国家留下选择的余地，除非西方国家把这种资本主义强加给这些国家——而这正是西方国家正在做的事情。
中国正在干着他们一直就所做的事情，正如中国某一位高级将领多年前所说过的：“我们应该去其糟粕取其精华，我们永远都不会成为一个西方国家、、、、中国现在是，一直是，也永远只会是中国”。
正确的来说，像近代的大不列颠王国一样，许多“帝国”已经被甩出了历史舞台。当一些西方国家还只是小部落时中国作为“中央帝国”已经有几千年的历史了。

诺基亚

china is simply behaving the way it has that allowed its CONTINUITY and longevity -- and now "re-emergence" .
when one considers such things -- what IS it that the west can REALLY "teach" china in terms of "survival" or longevity as great powers?
really..........nothing of consequence in the long scheme of things.

正如中国在历史上的表现一样，中国现在正在做的事情也是为了获得国家的长治久安，而现在中国又再次迎来了崛起的机会。
我们可以考虑一下这个问题：在一个大国的生存和长久的问题上，西方国家到底可以“教会”中国什么呢？
说真的，如果从长远的角度来看的话，西方国家没有什么有价值的东西可以教给中国。



socialite (unregistered)November 26, 2012, 00:26
The Chinese need to keep in mind that FIRE will DESTROY the building if built with STEEL. Fire brought down the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

中国人必须铭记在心，火灾能摧毁钢铁建造的建筑。2001年911事件中，火灾使世贸大厦崩塌了。



Wa Ma Wa Ma Woo (unregistered)November 26, 2012, 00:30
China is just another kleptocracy with outsized ego issues. Russia keeps a watchful eye on this noodle dumpling.

中国只是个超级自大的盗贼统治政体。俄罗斯得当心他们的面条和饺子。



teddyformusicNovember 26, 2012, 00:46
Anon (unregistered) wrote in #5
Half the price at 20 times the speed. What will the stats look like in another 20 years?
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i've often wondered whether in the future..........
ENTIRE cities can be built or "re-built" - sort of -- in a way that , from the outside distance -- look like gigantic "boxes" or "pyramids" ..or geodesic domes...where it's built as "parts" consisting of buildings inside , perhaps connecting to each other some way, or having their different city sections, but basically a single "unit" called a "city" - rather than the usual, current, cities of separate buildings..

回复“成本只有一半，速度却快了20倍。再过20年这些数字会变成什么样？”
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我一直很好奇未来会变成什么样……
整个城市可以被构造或“重建”：它们在远距离处看起来像巨大的“盒子”或“金字塔”或穹顶……它们以内部或相互连接或处于不同区域的独立建筑为零件，组合成称为“城市”的单元。——而不是当前通常由相互独立的建筑构成的城市。

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or maybe cities will evolve towards that design eventually as they continue to make their partial changes - until the different sections or buildings "merge" and are then incorporated into the vast "superbuilding" .
a skyscraper might be built that is like the giant pyramids...with every level having the surrounding "terraces" until the whole edifice reaches the clouds.....but also "failure" in one section would be designed to not affect the other sections......they are "collected" as one unit to urbanize populations as , naturally, land space is more limited with the population rise -- but also try to maintain "air space" between these huge megabuildings....
they would be monstrosities of course...but then ........skyscrapers already are .. and so are cities themselves.
so maybe, City and "skyscraper" will eventually merge as one and the same thing -- like building a city 10 square miles in area -- and from corner to corner reaching up to the sky 200 floors......something like that.....and inside of course are the infinite varities of "inner buildings" or sections , all with their accompanying sections of parks, avenues, but also with the whole "big building/city" designed to not just allow for continual additions but for its own "natural" channels of air- movement inside and to and from the "outside" of the building......much the way Ants or Termites build their cities underground. with their own natural airconditioning and "air-cleaning" flows.
I think it can be engineered that way.

随着他们继续各个部分的改造，或许城市最终会朝着他们设计的样子发展--直到不同部分或者建筑“合并”，然后整合成壮观的“超级大楼”。
摩天大楼将被建成金字塔的样子。。。每一节都会有“梯田”的景观，直到大厦耸入云端。。。但一节的“故障”也不会影响到其他部分。。。随着人口的大量增加，所以土地就变得更加的有限，所以这样的建筑可以容纳大量的从农村来城市生活和工作的人口----但他们同时也试图去保持这些超级建筑之间的“大气空间”。
显然，它们将成为怪物。。。但是。。。不过，摩天大楼已经是一个个怪物了，因此那些城市也变成了一个个可怕的地方。
所以说，或许城市和“摩天大楼”最终会融合成一体，变成同样的东西----像建造一个占地10平方英里的城市一样----从一个角落到另一个，将抵达两百层楼高的天空。。。类似那样的吧。。。里面当然是无数种类繁多的“内部建筑”或地区，所有这些都配备以公园，大街，但是整个“大楼/城市”的设计不仅顾及到持续不断的增加物，也考虑到它本身空气流通的“自然”通道----在内部自身的流动、向外部的流动以及从建筑物“外部”流动进来的。。。就像蚂蚁或白蚁构建它们的地下城市，同时附带它们自己的天然空调和“空气净化”流那样。
我认为它可以被建造成为那个样子。



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The MonkNovember 26, 2012, 04:00
After reading stories about dry wall that is making people sick, tainted dog food killing Fidos around the world and other tales of the Chinese willing to sacifice quality for keeping in good stead with the party.... who in their right mind would trust this builder to build a safe building???

在读过了一些介绍（中国产）能致病的有毒石膏板和受污染狗粮杀害世界各地的狗，以及中国人愿意为了迎合共产党而牺牲质量的故事后……哪个脑子正常的人能相信这些人能建造安全的建筑？



T.C. (unregistered)November 26, 2012, 04:24
China already has over-built for the housing market. There are whole cities sitting empty, built by speculators, but unaffordable to the populace. Will this skyscraper sit empty also? Pyong Yang, North Korea is an example of this. Countries transitioning from communism to capitalism have trouble with the idea of market-driven economies, continuing to think "We say You will build impressive building, then You will occupy them. Problem solved." Maybe by the time population pressure catches up to the vacancy rate, these structures will still be usuable, but the history of poor building practices in China doesn't bode well. Foreclosed homes in the U.S. are sitting and molding, so I'm not holding our system up as a sterling example.

中国的家庭房屋市场已经过剩了。投机者几乎建造了整个空空荡荡的城市，而普通人却买不起。这些摩天大楼也会变得空空如也的吧？朝鲜的平壤就是个这样的例子。从共产主义向资本主义过渡过程中的国家在建设市场导向性的经济体时出现问题，然后就这么想：“你们来建令人印象深刻的建筑，然后住进去，问题解决”没准到时候人口压力就能赶上空置率，（那么）这些大型建筑仍然有使用价值（译注：原文usuable多打了一个u），但中国在建筑方面实践的惨痛历史并不能带来好的预兆。法拍屋正在美国蔚然成风，所以我并不是在把我们的系统作为黄金范例。



Marco SiaoNovember 26, 2012, 06:30
[China: Great potential is releasing at beginning period]
The infrastructures and buildings on city areas are always not enough in Mainland China, they are moving to prosperity so fast or too fast. Why some cities expand so swift in Mainland China?
【中国：开始释放巨大的潜能】
中国大陆的基础设施和建筑总是跟不上需求，它们发展繁荣的速度很快，或者说太快了。为什么中国大陆有些城市扩张的如此迅速？

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Its original potential is great; many immigrants (millions of) come from rural area that is the other reason.
I have been to Changsha on Hunan Province, it is upgrading in various fields. A building could serve 200 years, 1-3 years to manage selling and renting that is normal. Now millions of Mainland Chinese are saving money for purchasing a house in city areas. High speed rail also should be built comprehensively, comparing with quantity of transportation; it is far safer than the US road traffic.
In 2018, Mainland China's import and GDP in PPP will exceed the US, in 2025 China's (Mainland + ROC Taiwan + Hong Kong + Macau) GDP (in nominal) also will exceed the US; and her export might be double than the US, too. More infrastructure and building are necessary definitely.

它有独特的巨大的潜力；另一个原因是有许多来自农村的移民（数以百万计）。
我去过湖南省长沙市，它的各种领域都在升级。一栋建筑可以维持200年，1-3年的管理销售以及租赁是很正常的。现在，中国大陆有数百万人正在攒钱用来购买在城市地区的一套房。与庞大的运输量相比，高铁也应该全面建设；这比美国的道路交通安全多了。2018年，中国大陆进口和GDP的购买力平价将超越美国，2025年，中国（大陆+中华民国台湾+香港+澳门）的GDP（名义值）也会超过美国，她的出口也可能会是美国的两倍。更多的基础设施和建筑绝对是必要的。



jesse_a_b (unregistered)November 26, 2012, 06:50
It will be the next ghost city in China, now a ghost building.
They build it to boost the economy but they leave their people to rot in the slums because they don't have enough money to buy those appartments.
So it only end up with a lot of homeless people and a lot of empty homes. Just like in America right now.

这会成为中国下一个鬼城，现在，这是一栋鬼楼。
他们建造这个来促进经济，但是却任由人民烂在贫民窟，因为这些人没有足够的钱去购买那些公寓。
所以，这只会落得有许多无家可归的人以及大量的空房子，就像现在的美国一样。



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venze (unregistered)November 26, 2012, 07:32
Erecting world's tallest building in 3 months? What for? For show, prestige, construction marvel?Most Dubai skyscrapers are half-empty (or half-full). Why follow? (vzc1943)

三个月建起一座世界上最高的建筑？这是为了什么呢？为了炫耀还是为了获取声望，亦或是说明这是一个建筑奇迹？大多数迪拜的摩天大楼都处于半空（甚至全空）的状态，为什么还要跟风呢？(vzc1943)



We Society not Me SocietyNovember 26, 2012, 08:00
They might be able to do it, but I sure wouldn't trust it to be safe!

他们或许有能力去做这事，但我绝不相信它的安全性



mike peine (unregistered)November 26, 2012, 09:56
HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED HOW CHINA SUDDENLY BECAME SO RICH AFTER BEING SO POOR THROUGH THE AGES WW1 & WW2 etc...Search The 1st Emperor. On You Tube. In 1978 Natl. Geo. did a issue with pictures, showing 1million workers hauling Treasures from the 20 square mile Tomb Until they ran out of GAS All the treasure they recoverd was less than 10% of whats still under ground & claimed still to be lost in order to prevent a GOLD crisis Those pillars that held up the ceiling now caved in 60ft are solid GOLD The Dragon is about 140x60x40ft & soild GOLD The Horses & Container holding the casket are Bronze The list of treasure is 50,000 pages ! As The Emperor Conqured HE gained untold wealth that left the country dirt poor & dependant on him. T H I N K !

你是否对中国为何突然在一战和二战之后变得如此富有而感到好奇呢？在youtube上搜索“The 1st Emperor”。在1978出版的国家地理杂志中，有照片显示有100万的工人从一个20平方英里的墓穴中搜刮珍宝直到他们精疲力尽。还有大量的宝藏没有被挖出来，挖出来的这些宝藏只占了没有被挖出来宝藏的10%还不到。不公开只是为了防止对黄金(价格暴跌)的恐慌。那些支撑墓穴的60英尺高的柱子都是实心黄金的。神龙大概是140x60x40英尺的纯金做的,那些奔马、棺材都是用青铜做的。仅仅是（记录）宝藏的单子就有50000页！作为皇帝他获得了无数的不为人知的财富，但却让整个国家一贫如洗（不得不）匍匐在他脚下。（你们自己）想想吧！！

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