月抱琵琶 发表于 2010-6-11 10:19

【10.06.09 华尔街日报】谷歌要求美欧向中国施压

【中文标题】谷歌要求美欧向中国施压
【原文标题】Google Asks U.S., EU to Press China
【登载媒体】华尔街日报
【原文链接】http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704575304575296912815686690.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

谷歌要求美欧向中国施压

布鲁塞尔——谷歌公司首席律师周三声称他们正在要求美、欧政府就解除网络过滤问题向中国施压,鉴于这为(另一层面上的)“自由贸易”造成了屏障。

David Drummond告诉记者,西方国家在捍卫信息“自由贸易”上应秉承应对中国倾销商品问题时的一贯原则。

他还强调“政府间的对话将是改变事态的唯一途径,而这一网络过滤加剧的趋势终将被制止”。

原文:
BRUSSELS—Google Inc.'s top lawyer said Wednesday the company is asking the U.S. and European governments to press China to lift Internet censorship, describing it as an unfair barrier to free trade.

David Drummond told reporters that Western countries should defend the free trade in information with the same kind of rules that they use to complain of China's below-cost sale of products.

He said government talks are "the only way that it's going to change, that this tide of censorship or this rising censorship is going to be arrested."

月抱琵琶 发表于 2010-6-11 10:19

新闻比较短,稍后翻译一些评论上来

diwent 发表于 2010-6-11 10:51

等待翻译评论。。。译者辛苦了

青蛙小王子 发表于 2010-6-11 10:57

感谢辛苦翻译,期待评论部分~{:12_564:}

henhaoa 发表于 2010-6-11 11:00

有完没完!!!滚蛋了就别惦记回来了...Q68)

hello20012 发表于 2010-6-11 11:08

美国又在中国产品上加了关税,最高的加到了510%,你问美国政府有没有脸来要求中国。何况信息贸易,闻所未闻。

hello20012 发表于 2010-6-11 11:08

美国又在中国产品上加了关税,最高的加到了510%,你问美国政府有没有脸来要求中国。何况信息贸易,闻所未闻。

月抱琵琶 发表于 2010-6-11 11:09

本帖最后由 月抱琵琶 于 2010-6-11 11:11 编辑

Peter Luk

谷歌或许在技术上领先于微软,但是谈到成熟度,微软已经是个成年人了,谷歌却差得远。它的天真和自大让我们不得不联想到某个暴发户家里被宠坏的孩子。谷歌真的指望中国会屈从于其他国家有关网络过滤所施加的压力?微软已近在中国学乖了,现在就忙着为它的股东们赚钱呢。而谷歌,在澳洲和欧洲也麻烦不断,却还执迷不悟地想要整个世界按他的套路走。

Google may be technically smarter than Microsoft. When it comes to maturity, Microsoft is a grown-up adult, whereas Google, with its naivete and arrogance, reminds us of a spoiled child of some nouveau riche. Does Google really expect China to succumb to the pressure of foreign governments regarding censorship? Microsoft has learned its lesson in China and now focuses on making money there for their shareholders. Google, with its problems in Australia and Europe, still wants the whole world doing things their way.

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Alexander Smith

谷歌在决定退出中国的时候就已经自毁桥梁了。我并不是想说取消网络过滤不是个好事,但是谷歌在这个问题上已经处于劣势(没什么发言权)了。试图把欧洲也扯进来去迫使中国打开大门不会有什么效果。唯一可能有效的是中国本土的人提出这种要求。如果中国国内的人寻求欧洲帮助的话,说不定会有人回应这一要求。不过这种情况在近期内估计不大可能发生了。

Google burned that bridge when it decided to "pull-out" of China. It's not that I don't think eliminating Internet censorship is a good thing, its just that Google has a weak position. Trying to involve the EU to get China to open its doors probably won't help. The only thing that might help is people within China asking for it. If people within China asked help from the EU then the claim might be recognized. However, that isn't likely to happen anytime soon.

核动力 发表于 2010-6-11 11:28

谷歌不是自己主动走的嘛……咋耍起赖了?
不带这么打滚的

yaoyaohappy 发表于 2010-6-11 12:29

谷歌不是退出中国了吗,还想回来吗

快乐考拉 发表于 2010-6-11 12:40

又是谷歌话题。这谷歌先生,你还有完没完啊

asd509 发表于 2010-6-11 12:42

我来围观癞皮狗的,悄悄地看看癞皮狗的嘴脸

sam712 发表于 2010-6-11 12:45

欧洲告谷歌的也不少啊

st_aster 发表于 2010-6-11 12:58

都窝在香港了 还敢这么吠

amojo 发表于 2010-6-11 13:02

stupid 谷歌。。。
如果信息也算自由贸易的一种,那么强烈要求西方各大新闻社进口我国各大社新闻不然光进口不出口贸易逆差过大啊
而且要求严惩CNN等一干炮制假新闻假信息的公司,简直就是信息贸易界的安然丑闻,对我国形象造成严重损害,要求经济赔偿!

月抱琵琶 发表于 2010-6-11 13:52

y lin

没听明白。网络过滤阻止了自由贸易?别闹了!事实是谷歌竞争不过百度了。那是你的问题。若果你没能力与对手竞争就干脆别做生意了。居然跟妈妈哭诉要求帮助。真恶心!!

I don't get the point. The censorship prevent free trade? Come on! The truth is you Google cannot compete with Baidu. That is your problem. If you don't have the ability to fight against the competitor, just don't do business. Don't cry out for your mom to help you. It sucks!!


John W. Condon回复y lin

或许他们(谷歌)有另一套商业企划,却没能在中国得以通过。这表明现在的美国政府对大型资本企业(虽说是税收来源之一)的兴趣已经和对清廉执政的决心不相上下了。

perhaps they have a different business plan that s basically been banned in China. This present government in the US has about as much interest in corporate America (aside from it being a source of tax revenue) or indeed in America as a whole as it does in honest governance.


Jun Jing

或许谷歌应该先去说服美国停止过滤恐怖分子的宣传或是让欧洲停止过滤网路上的纳粹相关信息。

Perhaps google should first try to persuade the US to stop censoring terrorist propoganda and EU to stop censoring Nazi messages on the internet.


XIAOZHOU ZHOU回复Jun Jing

一边去吧,Jun Jing!美国对于中国的公司有着更严苛的约束,你怎么不谈谈这些?你明显是双重标准!美国政府诚实?那么谁在欺骗谁呢?前总统比尔克林顿与白宫实习生的那些事他就扯了谎。我强烈建议你们这些人把自己的屁股擦干净再来评判别的国家。没人在意也没人需要你们这些看法!(注:怀疑是选错了回复对象,大概是反驳 John W. Condon的?)

Way to go, Jun Jing! America has even more strict rules to the Chinese firms, why don't you say something about that? You have double standards! American government is honest, who is kidding who? Former President Bill Clinton had an affair with the white house intern and he lied about it. I highly suggest you guys clean your own plate before passing any judgements to any other country. Nobody cares and needs your opinion!

ft1324998 发表于 2010-6-11 17:49

有完没完!!!滚蛋了就别惦记回来了...
henhaoa 发表于 2010-6-11 11:00 http://bbs.m4.cn/images/common/back.gif


    他确实惦记回来

大漠金舟 发表于 2010-6-11 18:05

这癞皮狗到底想干啥?这些做法只会更让人讨厌。太不知天高地厚了。

实在气不过就效仿1840年的英国,让山姆大叔派航母来吧。

Moarx 发表于 2010-6-11 18:46

我得说69以后同学们都把首页换谷歌了·····
于是我默默地换了搜狗····

水能载舟亦能覆舟

无可就要 发表于 2010-6-11 22:05

先让美国停止对中国的网络颠覆活动吧!

既想通过网络对中国进行颠覆活动和意识形态的渗透,还不允许中国反抗,真是岂有岂理!
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