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发表于 2009-7-10 00:14 | 显示全部楼层
而且我当时有个一个想法,请大家不要见笑,绝对是真实想法。我是共产党员,在这种时刻怎么能够躲到群众的后面去呢?必须挺身而出站出来。如果我当时犹豫一下,其实这件事也就过去了,也不会有人过多关注,但是我们就错过了一个非常好的斗争机会。

作为一个炎黄子孙向您致敬。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-10 00:14 | 显示全部楼层
第四个问题:
面对台下记者,世维会副主席和秘书长在新闻发布会上对7.5事件进行了大量的歪曲,他们诬称“中国政府镇压维族人的和平示威,导致大量维族示威者丧生”,请问他们有没有出示任何证据?台下的记者有何反应?
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:14 | 显示全部楼层
当时的话,想看看这到传说中的“邪教”到底是个什么组织,里面都是什么样的人物。去之前,跟大家一样,也会考虑安全,会不会有生命危险,但是仔细想想,在镜头前,他们就是再蠢,也不会漏出凶相。如果他们真的怎么样 ...
muou_0329 发表于 2009-7-9 23:57

生命宝贵,诸位多加小心。
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:15 | 显示全部楼层
相关视频和图片资料应制作专辑在网上传播
长期潜水 发表于 2009-7-10 00:13

赞同LS的把AC所收集的图片,视频。传到国际网上去!!!
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:16 | 显示全部楼层
164# 空气稀薄

他们没有任何证据,只是说“有人给他们打电话”、“网络上说”之类。记者显然不太满意,因为他们没有得到任何可靠的证据。相反我们的照片是非常有力的证据。
说一个细节。那个副主席刚开始讲话的时候他们好像还没有准备好“最新伤亡”的数字,副主席跟秘书长说了几句,秘书长就出去了。过了一会儿秘书长回来,手里拿着一张手写的写满字的纸,后来就在那念纸上的说法。我估计是他花了十分钟现编的。
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:17 | 显示全部楼层
哈哈哈,这个最搞笑!
说了半天,就是一个信口雌黄,感觉确实跟藏独有差距,或者说不是特别得到西方世界的崇信。藏独那时候图片,视频。。。一堆一堆的翻出来(虽然大多是假造的)。到这,说了半天,只见唾沫,未见其他,当他有遍出一个故事的时候,有记者问,到事件发生的地点的时候,他们竟然开始含糊,说是网上看的。因为一点证据也没有,有两个记者已经准备先行离开了。
当然还是有记者会本着作为记者的职业道德问问题的,他们问到前天在玛丽安广场疆独游行打了一个中国游客的事件,台上的说,激动了!(我就简略成这句话)
最终还是kktt待的材料充分,即使图片又是文章,完全吸引了记者的眼球。
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:18 | 显示全部楼层
164# 空气稀薄

他们没有任何证据,只是说“有人给他们打电话”、“网络上说”之类。记者显然不太满意,因为他们没有得到任何可靠的证据。相反我们的照片是非常有力的证据。
说一个细节。那个副主席刚开始讲话的时 ...
kktt 发表于 2009-7-10 00:16

他们就是凶残,恐怖。有什么智慧可言
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:18 | 显示全部楼层
164# 空气稀薄

他们没有任何证据,只是说“有人给他们打电话”、“网络上说”之类。记者显然不太满意,因为他们没有得到任何可靠的证据。相反我们的照片是非常有力的证据。
说一个细节。那个副主席刚开始讲话的时 ...
kktt 发表于 2009-7-10 00:16

邪正压正,底虚,可笑。
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:19 | 显示全部楼层
164# 空气稀薄

估计是他花了十分钟现编的。
kktt 发表于 2009-7-10 00:16

哈哈哈,笑岔气了。
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:21 | 显示全部楼层
佩服!爬楼~~
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:21 | 显示全部楼层
哈哈哈,这个最搞笑!
说了半天,就是一个信口雌黄,感觉确实跟藏独有差距,或者说不是特别得到西方世界的崇信。藏独那时候图片,视频。。。一堆一堆的翻出来(虽然大多是假造的)。到这,说了半天,只见唾沫,未见 ...
muou_0329 发表于 2009-7-10 00:17

呵呵,貌似也说了实话:网上来的(我又编了点)
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:22 | 显示全部楼层
关于德国与疆独的关系,给大家提供一个资料,就知道德国在此次事件中的态度绝非偶然。我没有时间翻译了,大家凑活着看吧。

http://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/fulltext/56104

Strategies of Attrition (IV) 2007/10/22
BERLIN/URUMQI/MUNICH/BEIJING (Own report) - German foreign policy makers, are upping their political pressure on Beijing, and holding talks with a Chinese separatist. As the Munich based "World Uyghur Congress (WUC)" announced, its president, Rebiya Kadeer will also be received by the foreign ministry. The Uyghurs, a Muslim minority from the autonomous region Xinjiang (Western China), are seeking the secession of their region "East Turkestan" from the People's Republic of China. Rebiya Kadeer's appearance in the German capital has been carefully stage managed for high profile in conjunction with US activities. Following the Dalai Lama's German Chancellery visit, Berlin has been escalating its anti-Beijing secessionist offensive. For decades, Germany - including foreign intelligence circles - has been cultivating relations to Uyghur exile politicians.
Precedent
Rebiya Kadeer is visiting Berlin shortly after the Dalai Lama ended his European tour that provoked strong protest from Beijing. In September, the head of the self proclaimed Tibetan exile government visited the Spanish province Catalonia that, after having gained extensive autonomy rights, is seeking secession.[1] He continued his trip to Portugal and Austria, meeting with the head of the Viennese government. In Berlin, the would-be god king was received for the first time by the German Chancellery. Shortly thereafter, the US government created another precedent: in a public ceremony, President Bush presented the Dalai Lama the Congressional Medal of Honor, the highest civilian award bestowed by American lawmakers. Now it is Rebiya Kadeer, who is making a tour. Coming from the USA, where she lives in exile, her first stop-over was London, where she had talks with MPs, representatives of the foreign ministry and members of the government. She then proceeded to Berlin, where she is at present.
Policy Advisor
Current transatlantic activities promoting anti-Chinese separatism and weakening Beijing, are based on decades of German-US cooperation. Erkin Alptekin, a Uyghur living in exile, is one of the protagonists. His father, Yusuf Alptekin had already participated in the 1930s secessionist movement in Western China. From 1933 - 1934 he was General Secretary of the provisional government of the "Turkish Islamic Republic East Turkestan". The Uyghurs are still calling the region they inhabit in the People's Republic of China, "East Turkestan", because they consider themselves to be of ethnic Turkish descent. Some of them are striving for a pan-Turkish federation combining regions in Central Asia with Turkey. After finishing his studies in Istanbul, Erkin Alptekin, whose family is held in high esteem in Uyghur circles, moved to Munich in 1971, where he became "Senior Policy Advisor" to the director of the US station "Radio Liberty".[2]
CIA
It was at that time, that the CIA began to establish contacts to Uyghurs seeking secession. "Some, like Erkin Alptekin, who have worked for the CIA's Radio Liberty, are - in the meantime - on the forefront of the secessionist movement" writes analyst B. Raman, the former Indian government's cabinet secretary.[3] In Munich, Alptekin founded the "East Turkestan Union in Europe" in 1991 and in April 2004 the "World Uyghur Congress" and was named its founding president. From German territory, the congress is steering numerous Uyghur exile organizations around the world, of which some must be classified as being in the terrorist milieu, according to Chinese government information.[4]
Connected
The Munich based exile movement seeks to merge the Uyghur secessionist movement with the Tibetan and the Mongolian movements, to break up the Chinese nation from several of its peripheral regions. In 1985, former CIA advisor Alptekin participated in the foundation of the "Allied Committee of the Peoples of East Turkestan, Tibet and Inner Mongolia". He supported in 1998, an international conference in New York, organized by this Committee, where representatives of the US government were in attendance. The strategy of ethnic movements is shared by the Dalai Lama. In his message of greetings to the conference in New York, he wrote: "Geography, history and currently Chinese occupation is connecting our three peoples. I remain optimistic that the true aspirations of the peoples of East Turkestan, Inner Mongolia and Tibet will be fulfilled in a not too distant future."[5]
Public Relations
Rebiya Kadeer, currently in Berlin for political consultations, is continuing Alptekin's activities - and is also receiving German-US American support. At the end of the 1990s, Rebiya Kadeer, - at the time the wealthiest business woman in the People's Republic - ran into conflict with Beijing, because of her separatist activities, provoking her arrest. Through pressure from the US, she was able to leave China for the United States in March 2005, where she joined her husband. He is still working for Radio Free Asia, the Asian counterpart to Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, also said to have close links to the CIA. Rebiya Kadeer has been systematically groomed as the unifying representative of the Uyghures. She has been nominated several times a candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize. A Bertelsmann Corporation publishing house recently published her biography - in German. The book has been receiving wide acclaim in the German media. In June 2007, shortly after her audience with US President Bush, it was presented at the Federal Press Conference in Berlin with interested Green parliamentarians in attendance.
Escalating
Rebiya Kadeer visited Berlin for the first time in November 2006, during her trip to Germany to be elected president of the "World Uyghur Congress" in Munich. Her current Berlin visit follows on the heels of a resolution passed by the US Congress, calling for Beijing to grant Uyghurs new rights of autonomy and to liberate incarcerated separatists, including two of Rebiya Kadeer's sons. She will be received not only by the German Foreign Ministry, but will also have consultations with the Federal Parliament's Human Rights Commission as well as with representatives of party affiliated Foundations. This clearly shows that Berlin is escalating its Uyghur policy.
Petra Kelly Prize
This is being aided by the "Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization (UNPO)" founded at the beginning of 1991 and based in The Hague. The Dalai Lama and the Uyghur secessionist Alptekin are among the co-founders. 69 "nations" are currently members of this organization, including "East Turkestan", Tibet and Inner Mongolia. The organization is demanding the "right of self-determination" for these regions of sovereign nations. In the meantime, six former UNPO members, among them Estonia, Latvia and Georgia have obtained the statehood, they had been demanding. The UNPO has a "coordination office" in Washington and has several "peoples" in reserve for use in the political strategies of Western powers. Among the UNPO members are Kurdish separatists from Iraq and Iran as well as secessionists form Serbia (Kosovo), who have long since been brought into position against their central governments, but also collectives in Russia and Myanmar seeking autonomy, who can be deployed whenever it becomes politically feasible.
The UNPO was honored with the "Petra Kelly Prize" by the German, Green Party affiliated, Heinrich Boell Foundation.
Please read also: Strategies of Attrition (I), Strategies of Attrition (II) and Strategies of Attrition (III).
[1] see also Language Struggle and Ethnic Europe
[2] Erkin Alptekin;
www.tibet10march.net/web/redner_alptekin.htm
[3] B. Raman: US and Terrorism in Xinjiang; South Asia Analysis Group, Paper No. 499, 24.07.2002
[4] China Seeks Int'l Support In Counter-Terrorism; People's Daily Online 16.12.2003
[5] B. Raman: US and Terrorism in Xinjiang; South Asia Analysis Group, Paper No. 499, 24.07.2002
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:22 | 显示全部楼层
中国崛起是(可怕)的----------------这个是西方80%的人传统想法
10%---想从中国赚钱
10%---发达国家一种压制发展中国家的手段

支持这些CD等就是10%那些人(打着人权头号发达国家政府一般会放任)

但是中国挺起来是大势所趋!(真正的法制国家)

国外的中国人要自信,自强。

你们做得是对的!支持!

另外想说的是----------要用中国人的智慧征服他们(包括女人)哈哈(德国女人还是不错的)
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:22 | 显示全部楼层
114# 空气稀薄

实话实说,7号晚上我看到疆独新闻发布会消息的时候还不知道当天下午Marienplatz广场发生的事情。
我当时也有些犹豫,因为毕竟这是一帮亡命之徒。但是我当时判断:1,有媒体在场他们不敢怎么样;2, ...
kktt 发表于 2009-7-9 23:59



顶真正的中国人,顶真正的中共党员!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-10 00:23 | 显示全部楼层
第五个问题:
台下记者提问环节结束后,勇士们开始行动了:德语非常好的一位勇士针锋相对的提了几个问题(明天晚上他将做客AC,到时给大家做详细介绍),然后你们向在场的记者展示了被暴徒残杀的无辜平民的照片,面对铁证,当时现场各方的反应如何?
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:23 | 显示全部楼层
哎,还能说啥,就这还搞独立,啥素质~
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:23 | 显示全部楼层
DDND
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:25 | 显示全部楼层
哈哈哈,这个最搞笑!
说了半天,就是一个信口雌黄,感觉确实跟藏独有差距,或者说不是特别得到西方世界的崇信。藏独那时候图片,视频。。。一堆一堆的翻出来(虽然大多是假造的)。到这,说了半天,只见唾沫,未见 ...
muou_0329 发表于 2009-7-10 00:17

一年的成长,有了经验了。
看来他们真的是素质很低了,比如热比娅竟然可以用假照片来接受采访,无语呀。德国的世维会大约也是很少受到这样高度关注,这次打击可不小。
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:25 | 显示全部楼层
世维大会这帮人的智商确实不高
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发表于 2009-7-10 00:25 | 显示全部楼层
他们像小丑哦。不过这也很好,更容易被世人早点看清面目。
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