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中国民族主义-------经济学家杂志

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发表于 2008-4-18 02:42 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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2008.4.3----经济学家杂志
http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10961867

原文如下:
Chinese nationalism
Land of the Yellow Emperor

The dangers of confusing patriotism with ethnic pride

MAO ZEDONG sent troops to “liberate” unenthusiastic Tibetans, but he also admitted that his country had a problem with “chauvinism” in its handling of ethnic minorities. As China tries yet again to quell an unruly Tibet, it still does.

More than two weeks after an eruption of rioting directed at ethnic Chinese in the Tibetan capital, Lhasa, China has yet to show much interest in what made Tibetans so angry. In an effort to display a little openness, it has allowed a small group of foreign journalists and an even smaller one of diplomats to pay brief visits to the city. To the alarm of officials, some Tibetan monks complained to the journalists about their lack of religious freedom. When the diplomats were later taken to the same temple the authorities made sure that only a tame monk was on hand to talk.

The state media's focus on the alleged pro-Tibetan bias of the Western press in covering the violence in Lhasa has triggered an outpouring of anti-Western sentiment on the internet. Jane Macartney, the China correspondent of the Times of London, has received death threats from callers to her Beijing office because of a commentary in her newspaper comparing the Beijing Olympics in August to the Nazi-organised Olympics in Berlin in 1936.

Fearing protests by Tibetans and others, officials imposed tight security on March 31st around an Olympic torch-lighting ceremony in Tiananmen Square. At the event President Hu Jintao lit a cauldron on which were carved 56 “lucky clouds”. The official news agency, Xinhua, said these symbolised good wishes from China's 56 officially recognised ethnic groups.

But the next day a police spokesman, Wu Heping, said that Tibetan separatists were preparing to send out “dare-to-die” squads to stage violent attacks (he offered no details). Mr Wu said police had recently seized 178 guns, some 13,000 bullets, more than 3.5 tonnes of explosives, more than 19,000 detonators and two hand-grenades from Tibetan monasteries. He also said they had arrested a man suspected of acting as an agent for the “Dalai Lama clique” to incite the Lhasa unrest. The Dalai Lama denies any involvement.

China has produced little convincing evidence of any terrorist campaign within its borders. Diplomats say China tends to exaggerate such threats as an excuse to crack down on separatist movements. Its crude methods of doing so often heighten ethnic tensions. After the rioting an armoured personnel carrier with helmeted troops on top cruised through Lhasa, displaying a red banner that read “religious activities must keep to the law”.

Official insensitivity to ethnic minorities is evident in attempts in recent years to foster a cult of the Yellow Emperor, a mythical ancestor of the Han race, who supposedly lived 5,000 years ago. Senior leaders have taken part in ceremonies paying homage to him. Last October officials arranged for groups of ethnic minorities, including Tibetans, to join one such rite at a shrine in Shaanxi province where the Yellow Emperor is said to be buried. After passing through Tibet, where officials fear it could spark more protests, the Olympic torch will be carried to the shrine in July.

Yellow Emperor-worship will enjoy a boost from the introduction this week of a new public holiday known as Qingming, Tomb Sweeping Day. This is a festival at which Chinese traditionally pay their respects to ancestors. Governments in Shaanxi and in Henan province, which claims to be the emperor's birthplace, are competing (and reportedly spending millions of dollars) to make their respective Yellow Emperor shrines pre-eminent. Officials in Henan say they are expecting 20,000 emperor-worshippers this month.

That ethnic minorities have no interest in the Yellow Emperor is occasionally noted by Chinese commentators. But many Chinese officials see the cult as a useful way of promoting patriotism. Just before the Lhasa riots four advisers to China's parliament proposed that presiding over Yellow Emperor ceremonies should become an annual duty for state leaders. This, they said, would help “unite and consolidate forces from all sides”. Tibetans would differ.

翻译全文如下:

中国民族主义


黄帝的土地


带着民族自豪感的令人疑惑的爱国主义的危险




毛泽东派军队去“解放”并不热心于此的西藏人,而他也承认他的国家在处理少数族裔的时候存在沙文主义的问题。如今,当中国又一次试图镇压难以控制的西藏的时候,沙文主义的问题仍然存在。

在西藏省府拉萨爆发针对少数民族的骚乱多大两个星期后,中国一直表现出对导致西藏人如此愤怒的原因的兴趣。在一个展示小小开放性的努力中,中国允许一个小规模外国记者队伍和更小规模的外交官队伍对拉萨作了简短的访问。针对政府的警告,一些西藏喇嘛对记者抱怨他们缺乏宗教自由。当外交官们随后被送到同样的寺庙时,官方已经确保只有一个温顺的喇嘛在旁边可以与之交谈。

官方媒体把注意力集中在对西方媒体在报道拉萨骚乱时对支持西藏偏见的指控上,由此引发了在互连网上反西方言论的狂潮。Jane Macartney,伦敦泰吾士报驻中国记者,因为一则他报纸上把北京奥运会比做1936柏林奥运会的评论已经收到打到他北京办公室的死亡威胁电话。

担忧遭到西藏人和其他人士的抗议,官方加强了3.31号左右在天安门的奥运火炬点火仪式的安全。在仪式中,胡主席点燃了雕刻着56朵祥云的火坛,官方新闻机构新华社说,这象征着中国官方认定的56个民族的良好祝愿。

但,接下来的一天,警方发言人吴和平说,西藏分离主义分子已经准备派出敢死队策动暴力袭击(但他没有提供详细信息)。他说警察已经在一些寺庙里缴获了178支枪,约13000发子弹,多达3.5吨炸药,以及19000多个雷管和两个手榴弹。他同时说警方已经逮捕了一名DL集团派在拉萨策动暴乱的男性嫌疑人。DL否认了他有与之任何关联。

中国已经公布了少量在恐怖活动定义内的确凿证据,外交人士说中国试图夸大这样一种威胁作为打击分离主义运动的借口。这样一种粗陋的做法通常加剧了民族之间的紧张形势。在骚乱发生后,一辆载有戴着头盔的士兵的装甲车在拉萨巡视,车身上挂着“必须依法从事宗教活动”的红色条幅。

官方对少数民族的冷漠在近些年在试图鼓励形成对黄帝的崇拜中成为证据。黄帝,作为一个汉族虚构的神话中的祖先,被认为生活在5000年前。高级领导人在若干次庆典仪式中表达了对他的崇敬之情。去年十月,官方安排了包括西藏人在内的少数民族团体在陕西省据说是黄帝陵寝的圣地参加了非常隆重的仪式。现在在西藏,官方害怕引起更多反抗,奥运火炬将在7月带到这个神圣的地方。


对黄帝的崇拜将由于这个星期新公共假日--清明节到来得到加强。这个节日中,中国人按照传统向先人表示尊敬。陕西省政府和宣布是黄帝出生地的河南省比赛着(据报道花费数百万美圆)将他们各自的黄帝陵寝造的出类拔萃。河南省官员说他们期望这个月有20000个黄帝祭拜者。

少数民族对黄帝没有兴趣偶尔会被中国评论员指出。但许多中国官员把对黄帝的崇拜看作是促进爱国主义的有效方法。在拉萨骚乱不久前,四个**提出主持黄帝祭祀大典应该成为国家领导人的年度职责。关于这个,他们说,将有助与团结和巩固各方面的力量。西藏人将不会同意。










[ 本帖最后由 OrpheusXi 于 2008-4-18 08:35 编辑 ]
发表于 2008-4-18 03:22 | 显示全部楼层
DL不能代表西藏人!!
发表于 2008-4-18 07:30 | 显示全部楼层
我也不赞成把祭拜黄帝变成由政府的事情.

该民间做的事民间去做, 政府做好政府该做的事就好了!

别乱了规矩, 让外国人说三道四!!
发表于 2008-4-18 10:52 | 显示全部楼层
祭拜黄帝应该遵从个人意愿,官方代表祭拜尽管能进行爱国思想教育但也落人口舌,而且花费不小,浪费资源,不如花在其他更有意义的 事上!
发表于 2008-4-18 11:29 | 显示全部楼层
在废除农奴之初是得到西藏人普遍支持的,外国人怎么一而再的犯历史错误,任何一个理性的人都会怀疑他们别有用心。
发表于 2008-4-18 11:29 | 显示全部楼层
对西方人我们已经说的够多了,
现在需要的是行动,文明、礼貌、坚定、长期的行动。
从抵制家乐福开始!
发表于 2008-4-18 12:02 | 显示全部楼层
对于外国人是在是无语了~~~让他们爱怎么说怎么说去吧~~~~做我们自己的事——坚持抵制
发表于 2008-4-18 14:00 | 显示全部楼层
真的不指望西方那些张臭嘴能喷出什么干净的话了!咱们只能要求自己做得更好了,文明、坚定地走自己的路,对任何胆敢搞破坏的人绝不手软!
发表于 2008-4-18 15:12 | 显示全部楼层
放P少来提沙文注意.!!!

   放p
发表于 2008-4-19 01:27 | 显示全部楼层
johnsonsteven wrote: April 15, 2008 06:15 less than sixty years ago, after the People's Republic of China(P.R.C) was founded, if you have studied Chinese history carefully, Chinese was one of the most poorest countries over the world, when millions of Chinese people die each year unnecessarily and wastefully from diseases, hungry and flood, we had not heard such words as Chinese human right, nationalism, we had heard boycott, embargo, and words of threat. And today believe it or not, under the leadership of C.C.P. Chinese people have achieved a great accomplishment, especially in the field of economic growth, although, as is so often pointed out by many people, just as Mr. Jfroitz.too many people yet live in poverty, however, still many people obtain a better-of living.
Admitedly, the Chinese government does have some drawbacks, or something that is not accepted by the west, but Chinese people will give her the very chance to improve herself. From all the aspects, if Chinese people are given the opportunity to choose between the Chinese government and the west. I guess their will choose the former, and without hesitate, kick the latter to the dump of rubish.
From the history, Chinese was, is and will be a peace-love nation, although the west deserve the blame, most Chinese people hold a friendly attitude towards western people. is Chinese always a nationality of forgettery?
Hypocrisy. The west cover their interest-oriented face with a mask of human right or noble imagine. of course,they do succeed in the Affric continent, when the west exchanged their Bible for the gold of African. http://www.economist.com/world/a ... 961867&mode=comment ===========================================================================================================================
斗胆译一下,不好请指正!
johnsonsteven 写道:
4月15日 2008 6:15
      不到60年前,在中华人民共和国(P.R.C)成立前,如果你认真的学习中国的历史,中国是世界上最穷的国家之一,当几百万中国人死于每年没有必要的和浪费的疾病,饥饿和洪水,我们没有听到有关中国人权,民族主义之类的词,我们听到抵制,封锁和威胁(译者注:应该是指威胁中国)。然而今天,不管你信不信,在共产党的领导下,中国人完成了一个伟大的成就,特别在经济增长的领域,虽然,正如被很多人指出来的,比如Mr. Jfroitz。太多的人生活在贫困,尽管如此,仍有许多人得到了更好的生活。
      公认的,中国政府有一些缺陷,或者说是一些不能被西方接受的地方,但中国人会给予她最大的机会来改进她自己。从每一个角度,如果中国人得到在中国政府和西方之间的选择机会。我猜他们会选择前者,并毫无疑问的,把后者丢进垃圾堆。
      从历史上看,中国人过去是,现在是,将来也是爱好和平的国家,虽然西方理应被责备,大多数中国人对西方人抱持着友好的态度。难道中国人一直是个健忘的民族主义者?
     伪善。西方用人权或高尚理想来掩盖他们唯利是图的面目。当然,他们在非洲大陆很成功,当西方用圣经从非洲人手里换黄金时。
[ 本帖最后由 a54cc 于 2008-4-19 02:24 编辑 ]
发表于 2008-4-19 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
a last note for Jfroitz: 1. I found some self-styled independence seekers opportunists at best. that is why they always need some boost from without. 2. Be it noted that what Mann or Bell has said in an objective and impartial research would more likely than not be labeled as nationalist or too patriotic if uttered by a Chinese.
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又一个观点(水平有限啊,可能有错,高手来看看啊):
1.我只看到一些自私自利的机会主义者。这就是为什么他们毫无作为而总是需要一些加薪。
2.可以指出,那个中国人之所以误会Mann或者Bell所说的客观而公正的研究,与其说是民族主义不如说是太爱国。
[ 本帖最后由 a54cc 于 2008-4-19 02:03 编辑 ]
发表于 2008-4-19 02:17 | 显示全部楼层
Jfroitz (4) People under long-term and persistent hypnosis will psychologically start to construct a mechanism of self-hypnosis. As time goes by, the ideas hypnotized would come to be part of his very personality. So, if you find someone ‘fall prey to the trap of nationalism,’ look at some others who think they are not, and see if they fall prey to the trap of nationalism on the part of other states! =============================================================================
(斗胆再译一篇,呵呵。)
人在长期的催眠下会在心里上开始建立起一个有组织的自我催眠。随着时间的推移,所催眠的想法会成为这个人个性的重要一部分。所以,如果你要找某个“深陷民族主义陷阱”的人,看看其他那些认为他们自己不是的人,并看看他们是否陷入了别国的那部分民族主义!(译者注:这句话很有意思的样子啊)
发表于 2008-4-19 02:28 | 显示全部楼层
哎,好像都是华人的反驳啊...
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