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[政治] wiki重磅揭秘- no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square, cables claim

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-6-5 14:34 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Wikileaks: no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square, cables claim Secret cables from the United States embassy in Beijing have shown there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square when China put down student pro-democracy demonstrations 22 years ago.
Students link arms to hold back angry crowds from chasing a group of retreating soldiers Photo: AP Photo/Mark Avery







By Malcolm Moore, Shanghai

8:00AM BST 04 Jun 2011


The cables, obtained by WikiLeaks and released exclusively by The Daily Telegraph, partly confirm the Chinese government's account of the early hours of June 4, 1989, which has always insisted that soldiers did not massacre demonstrators inside Tiananmen Square.


Instead, the cables show that Chinese soldiers opened fire on protesters outside the centre of Beijing, as they fought their way towards the square from the west of the city.

Three cables were sent from the US embassy on June 3, in the hours leading up to the suppression, as diplomats realised that the final showdown between the protesters and soldiers was looming.

The cables described the "10,000 to 15,000 helmeted armed troops" moving into the city, some of whom were "carrying automatic weapons".

Meanwhile, "elite airborne troops" and "tank units" were said to be moving up from the south.

The army came up against "an elaborate system of blockades", described in a cable from May 21, 1989, which allowed students to "control much of central Beijing".
Diplomats observed that "there were buses turned sideways to form roadblocks" and students had vowed the army would not be able to cross. "But we doubt it", one cable added. Students also used teams of motorcycle couriers to communicate with the roadblocks, sending reinforcements where needed.
As the troops moved in, the cables stated that diplomatic staff were repeatedly warned to "stay at home" unless involved in front-line reporting. "The situation in the centre of the city is very confused," said a cable from June 3. "Political officers at the Beijing Hotel reported that troops are pushing a large crowd east on Chang'an avenue. Although these troops appear not to be firing on the crowd, they report firing behind the troops coming from the square".
Inside the square itself, a Chilean diplomat was on hand to give his US counterparts an eyewitness account of the final hours of the pro-democracy movement.
"He watched the military enter the square and did not observe any mass firing of weapons into the crowds, although sporadic gunfire was heard. He said that most of the troops which entered the square were actually armed only with anti-riot gear – truncheons and wooden clubs; they were backed up by armed soldiers," a cable from July 1989 said.
The diplomat, who was positioned next to a Red Cross station inside Tiananmen Square, said a line of troops surrounded him and "panicked" medical staff into fleeing. However, he said that there was "no mass firing into the crowd of students at the monument".
According to internal Communist party files, released in 2001, 2,000 soldiers from the 38th army, together with 42 armoured vehicles, began slowly sweeping across the square from north to south at 4.30am on June 4. At the time, around 3,000 students were sitting around the Monument to the People's Heroes on the southern edge of the giant square, near Chairman Mao's mausoleum.
Leaders of the protest, including Liu Xiaobo, the winner of last year's Nobel Peace prize, urged the students to depart the square, and the Chilean diplomat relayed that "once agreement was reached for the students to withdraw, linking hands to form a column, the students left the square through the south east corner." The testimony contradicts the reports of several journalists who were in Beijing at the time, who described soldiers "charging" into unarmed civilians and suggests the death toll on the night may be far lower than the thousands previously thought.
In 2009, James Miles, who was the BBC correspondent in Beijing at the time, admitted that he had "conveyed the wrong impression" and that "there was no massacre on Tiananmen Square. Protesters who were still in the square when the army reached it were allowed to leave after negotiations with martial law troops [ ...] There was no Tiananmen Square massacre, but there was a Beijing massacre".
Instead, the fiercest fighting took place at Muxidi, around three miles west of the square, where thousands of people had gathered spontaneously on the night of June 3 to halt the advance of the army.
According to the Tiananmen Papers, a collection of internal Communist party files, soldiers started using live ammunition at around 10.30pm, after trying and failing to disperse the crowd with tear gas and rubber bullets. Incredulous, the crowd tried to escape but were hampered by its own roadblocks.
The cables also reveal the extent to which the student democracy protests had won popular support, and how for several weeks the protesters effectively occupied the whole of central Beijing, posing an existential challenge to the Communist party.
One cable, from May 21, 1989, reports that an anonymous caller had told the US consulate in Shenyang that Ni Zhifu, the chairman of China's labour unions, had condemned martial law in the capital and warned that unless the students were treated with more respect he would lead a general workers' strike that would cripple China.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8555142/Wikileaks-no-bloodshed-inside-Tiananmen-Square-cables-claim.html
发表于 2011-6-5 14:36 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 pinggougou 于 2011-6-5 14:42 编辑

达人快来翻译!
还有:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wikileaks-files/8555896/Wikileaks-Tiananmen-cables.html
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发表于 2011-6-5 14:56 | 显示全部楼层
就是說天安門沒有流血?簡直是胡說八道,那些被中國人打死的軍人難道不是人?沒有流血?
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发表于 2011-6-5 14:58 | 显示全部楼层
Wikileaks: no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square, cables claim Secret cables from the United States embassy in Beijing have shown there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square when China put down student pro-democracy demonstrations 22 years ago.

洩密危機:天安門廣告沒有殺戮。根據美國駐北京使館的秘密電報顯示,22年前,中國鎮壓學生運動的時候,天安門並沒有殺戮。
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发表于 2011-6-5 15:01 | 显示全部楼层
這樣的文章,即便翻譯了,也會被AC“收藏起來”。並且我還會遭到中國人的痛駡。還是別翻譯。誰翻譯誰是國家公敵,因為中國人會罵死你
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发表于 2011-6-5 15:09 | 显示全部楼层
There was no Tiananmen Square massacre, but there was a Beijing massacre".


yes,there is a massacre, but not Tiananmen, it is Beijing, Chinese killed plenty more PLA soldier!
that was the massacre~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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发表于 2011-6-6 11:18 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 voloin 于 2011-6-6 11:20 编辑

找到一个已经翻译好的,不过不知道是谁翻译的,先拿来再说  

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2011年6月6日 英国每日电讯

By Malcolm Moore, Shanghai




       8:00AM BST 04 Jun 2011

原文地址:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8555142/Wikileaks-no-bloodshed-inside-Tiananmen-Square-cables-claim.html

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每日电讯报独家获得了维基解密的电报,美国驻北京大使馆的秘密电报表明, 22年前的中国学生的民主示威时,天安门没有流血镇压。1989年6月4日,士兵没有在天安门广场屠杀示威者。


相反,美国使馆的电报表明,开枪发生在北京市中心外,因为士兵企图从广场西面进入广场。在6月3日晚,最激烈的战斗发生在木樨地(距广场约三英里的地方),在那里有成千上万的人聚集,自发地阻止了部队的前进。


一位智利外交官,给他的美国同行提供了他在广场的最后几个小时的目击记录。


根据美国使馆1989年7月一个电报说,“他看着军队进入广场,没有观察到士兵向人群大规模开火。但是,有零星的枪声传出。他说,前面的部队进入广场时,大部分实际上只配备了防暴装备 – 警棍和木棒,跟在他们的后面是武装士兵”。[评:知道为何老布什在“535”发生后不久的1989年7月,就秘派特使到北京的原因了吧!但是,美国政府就是一直没有对外公布这些电报的内容。相反,他们默许西方媒体,继续造谣,竖起一个不存在的“天安门大屠杀”的牌子,不断地攻击中国政府。]


这名智利外交官,当时他站在天安门广场的红十字会站旁边,当部队包围过来时,那些医务人员恐慌逃离。他说,“没有士兵向在纪念碑附近的学生人群开火”。


这位智利外交官转述,“学生和部队达成了协议后,学生就开始撤退,他们牵手形成一行,从广场东南角离开。” 这位智利外交官的证词,与当时在北京的几位(外国)记者的报道完全不同(那个报道,形容士兵向成手无寸铁的平民开枪)。根据这位智利外交官的现场目击,那天晚上的间死亡人数,可能远远低于一些人所说的数千人的说法。

直到2009年, BBC记者詹姆斯•迈尔斯(当时在北京)才承认,他“传达了错误的信息”。他说: “在天安门广场没有大屠杀。”[评:著名的BBC的大记者先造谣,然后,等了20年之后,才承认“传达了错误的信息”!这就是西方媒体的公正—“535”的被利用价值已经被榨干了。但是,还有一些人不甘心,还要继续消费“535”。]

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发表于 2011-6-6 13:39 | 显示全部楼层
中文版在此遥相呼应:维基解密:美外交密件证实中国声明 6.4时天-安-门广场没有死人
http://bbs.m4.cn/forum.php?mod=v ... p;extra=&page=1
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发表于 2011-6-6 16:28 | 显示全部楼层
找到一个已经翻译好的,不过不知道是谁翻译的,先拿来再说   ================================= ...
voloin 发表于 2011-6-6 11:18



    复制发到外媒好吗,发到此帖http://bbs.m4.cn/thread-3103986-1-1.html
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发表于 2011-6-8 17:10 | 显示全部楼层
Wikileaks: no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square, cables claim Secret cables from the United States e ...
pinggougou 发表于 2011-6-5 14:34



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