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Ken Cheng
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In wuxia fiction, religious individuals and organizations are most commonly associated with either Buddhism or Taoism. This is understandable considering that these were the two most dominant organized religions in China during the centuries that most wuxia stories take place. There are also the occasional Manichaeist or even Muslim, but Christianity is largely unrepresented in wuxia fiction.
This too is based upon historical reality: Christianity had virtually no presence in the Chinese consciousness until Jesuit missionaries from Europe began arriving in China during the Ming Dynasty, and even then, Christianity did not really make any headway among the Chinese population until well into the Qing Dynasty...by which time most wuxia stories had already passed.
But what if a significant Christian presence had entered China by, say, the time of the Tang Dynasty? What if Christian martial arts sects had appeared in wuxia stories set during the Sung, Yuan, and early Ming Dynasties? Things could get interesting. In the wuxia stories we know, Buddhist and Taoist sects such as Shaolin, Cheun Jen Sect, Mo Dong Sect, and Ngor Mei Sect often had conflicts against one another for various reasons, but religion was never one of those reasons. There was remarkable religious tolerance in wulin. Medieval Christianity, however, had a mindset of either converting the "heathens" (and thus, "saving" them) or destroying them as infidels.
在武侠小说里，宗教组织或个人一般不是与佛教有关，就是与道教有关。其原因在于，在中国武侠故事发生的那几个世纪中，两大占统治地位的宗教组织就是佛教和道教。有时武林中甚至会出现摩尼教信徒和穆斯林，然而，基督徒们从未在武侠小说中占据一席之地。
这种情况同样基于史实：在西方传教士于明代将基督教从欧洲传到中国之前，中国人几乎没有基督教这个概念。即使在传入中国后，基督教在中国也一直没有太多的支持。到了清朝情况才有所好转，然而到了那时，武侠的时代大部分已经过去了。
然而，如果基督教能在进入中国后占据一席之地——我们假定是在唐代，那么在宋朝、元朝和早期的明朝会不会出现基督教的武术？如果是这样，那会非常有意思。在我们所知的武侠世界中，佛教和道教教派有少林派、全真教（原文Cheun Jen Sect）、武当派（原文Mo Dong Sect）和峨眉派（原文Ngor Mei Sect）等各个派系，这些派系之间经常爆发冲突，冲突的原因也是多种多样，然而从没有一场冲突是由宗教而起。可见在武林中，人们对宗教有极高的宽容度。然而在欧洲中世纪，基督徒们的观念是，“异教徒”都应该皈依基督教（也就是所谓的“拯救”），如果他们不这么做，就得把他们作为异教徒统统杀死。
明教，又称作 牟尼 教或摩尼教，发源于古代 波斯 萨珊王朝，为西元3世纪中叶 波斯人 摩尼（Mani）所创立，受 基督教 与伊朗祆教马兹达教义所影响，摩尼声称自己是神的 先知 ，也是最后一位先知。摩尼教对 粟特 影响很大，并传入了中国。
Moreover, would a medieval Christian sect in Chinese wulin have been willing to train in chi and other advanced skills, which they might have interpreted as "Satanic?"
Things to think about.
此外，如果一个中世纪的基督教派在中国开宗立派，他们会不会认为练气，或是其他先进的技能是“邪恶的”东西？又是否会愿意训练这些技能呢？
让我们来思考思考吧。
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dojima_no_ryu
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Thats a pretty interesting thought experiment As we all know Ming sect is in actual fact Manicheanism, the belief system of St Augustine b4 his conversion to christianity, and islam makes an appearance in book and sword. Given the militant inquisition style of the abrahamic faiths during that period - crusades and all that - its difficult to picture a peaceful co-existance of christianity with the other sects in wuxia. However, there might be 2 alternative ways to portray Christianity - a. Arthurian style with honour but unshakable adherance to destroying heathens, a bunch of male miejues in other words or b. Spanish inquisition style devils in all out assault mode. I do find it difficult to imagine how JY can portray wugong as an inherent part of Christian doctrine as in the case of the chinese religions, but if Manicheanism can produce a green vampire I guess anything goes...
这个想法很有趣【笑】就我们所知，明教实际上就是个摩尼教派，在圣奥古斯汀改信基督教之前他信仰的就是这个。而且伊斯兰在《书剑恩仇录》里也出场了。考虑到不管是十字军东征时期还是其它时期，对于亚伯拉罕的信仰已经颇为激进，甚至搞出了宗教法庭这样的东西， 我认为基督教和武侠世界中的其他教派很难实现和谐共存。然而，基督教还有两种可行的发展方案：
a:类似亚瑟王，这样的人很令人尊敬，但是对他们来说毁灭异教徒这一点却不可动摇，换句话说，就是一大票男性的灭绝师太。
b:类似于西班牙宗教法庭里的那些魔鬼，攻击模式全开。
我很难想象金庸如何能够在中国的宗教环境下，根据基督教本身的教义描绘出一种基督教武功。不过既然摩尼教都能生产出绿色的吸血鬼（猜猜这是谁？），我想总会有合适的武功吧...
基督教神学家 奥古斯丁 最初也加入摩尼教，前后长达九年的“摩尼教徒”。后来奥古斯丁争脱而反驳摩尼教。
亚伯拉罕（Abraham）或 易卜拉辛 （Ibrahim），原名 亚伯兰 或阿巴郎﹝Abram﹞是犹太教、 基督教 和 伊斯兰教 的 先知 ，是 上帝 从地上众生中所捡选并给予祝福的人。同时也是传说中 希伯来 民族和 阿拉伯民族 的共同祖先。
《 圣经 》旧约中的创世纪和《 古兰经 》中皆记载亚伯拉罕的嫡子以撒是 犹太民族 的祖先、庶子 以实玛利 是 阿拉伯 民族的祖先。在基督教信仰中，亚伯拉罕（ 易卜拉辛 ）是信心的楷模，他愿意服从上帝、把自己的独生子以撒献祭，预表了上帝献出 耶稣 。在伊斯兰教里，易卜拉辛（亚伯拉罕）同样是信仰之楷模，顺服上帝把儿子以实玛利献出。
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Bei Rongkun
Christianity did had significant history in China wuxia world. In Qing dynasty the Boxer Rebellion was influenced by Christianity. And it somehow represent the Ming cult where the member is pro Han and high standard sect rules.
基督教曾在中国历史上发挥过重大作用。清朝的义和团起义就是收到了基督教的影响。这在一定程度上显现出这个支持汉族，并且有着高水平的教规的宗教——明教的影响力。
在古代中国，摩尼教发展混合有 道教 、佛教、 白莲教 等成分。五代、宋、元 农民起义 常利用为组织的工具。尊 张角 为教祖，敬摩尼(或译作“ 牟尼 ”)为光明之神，并崇拜日月。
到了 宋代 ，摩尼教被意译为“明教”，教义被简明地归纳为“清净、光明、大力、智慧”八个字。教众中有 农民 、秀才、吏员、兵卒、绿林好汉、江洋大盗、武林俊彦等。
明教在宋元时期进一步和中国本上文化结合起来，成为下层人民和江湖对抗朝廷的秘密斗争形式，由于明教长期受到朝廷压抑，行事极为诡秘，有时也为江湖“白道”所误解，比一般的江湖面临着更大的压力，因此反抗朝廷也更坚决，在历史上几次掀起大的波澜。
第一次是北宋末年， 方腊 利用摩尼教组织群众，举行了声势浩大的起义，震动东南半壁河山。
第二次是 南宋 以后，明教和白莲教相联结，在 元末农民战争 中充当了重要角色。元末农民大起义中的 红巾军 ，多白莲教徒，首领 韩林儿 又称“小明王”，这个“明”又与明教有关。
后来的 明太祖 朱元璋 ，当时也是白莲教和明教中人。只是他取得大权以后，因为深知秘密教派的厉害，逐渐与两教不大和睦。等到他当上皇帝，便采纳 李善长 的建议，下诏严禁白莲社、明尊教，并把取缔“左道邪术”写进《明律》十一《礼律》，用法律形式固定下来。其后，白莲教以各种支派的形式变换名目继续得到发展，明教却逐渐衰落了。在 武侠 小说中，由于 金庸 的武侠名著《 倚天屠龙记 》写到明教，使明教蜚声一时，成为侠的文化形式中秘密教派的一个典型。
Ken Cheng
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Ah, but that was very late in the game...when the bulk of wuxia stories had already taken place. Even in the Qing Dynasty stories, Christianity tended to play a minimal role, if any at all.
啊，但那已经是武侠世界的晚期了...武侠小说里大部分的故事都已经发生了。即使是在清朝的故事里，基督教就算有角色也只是打酱油的。
Bei Rongkun
Oops... it was not Boxer rebellion, I mean was TAIPING Rebellion with his leader Hong Xiuquan and the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom 太平天囯 organization.
哎哟…这不是义和团，是太平天国起义。这场运动的领袖是洪秀全，而发起这场起义的是Taiping Heavenly Kingdom 太平天囯组织。
Ken Cheng
That's the one notable exception wherein Christianity and wuxia meet head-on, but even this story took place in a wulin wherein the era of the great Buddhist and Taoist wulin sects had mostly passed. There was not a dominant Shaolin, Mo Dong, or Ngor Mei whose religion would compete with that of the Christians.
这只是基督教与武侠世界针锋相对的一个例外。而且在这个故事里，那些佛教和道教门派活跃的伟大时代早已经结束了。当时少林、武当、峨眉几大门派都已衰落，无法和基督徒们竞争。
dojima_no_ryu
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would you guys consider the wong fei hong and fong sai yuk type stories part of the wuxia canon? I'm a noob to this forum just curious what the conventions of the wuxia genre are... in my mind qing era stories mostly have less of an element of jianghu and wulin, and the sects are replaced by gong fu schools like wing chun, choy lay fot - and sects like taiping nd white lotus - and the like... would you consider that to constitute a jianghu/wulin?
各位，考虑一下方世玉和黄飞鸿这类武侠经典怎么样？我算是这个论坛里的菜鸟，只是这次对这个关于武侠流派的讨论实在感兴趣…在我的心目中，清朝的故事里江湖和武林的元素都较少，而且过去的各大门派也被咏春拳、蔡李佛拳这样的功夫学校、太平天国和白莲教这样的教派，还有其它的新兴门派所取代。你们认为这些门派能够组成一个新的江湖或武林吗？
咏春拳，中国拳术中南拳之一。五十年代由 叶问 带来 香港 、从七十年代开始，由 梁挺 首先带往 德国 ，从此在 欧洲 快速发展，为多国 特警 所采用的拳术。咏春拳术以一套实际拳术战斗理论为主，以 身体 结构、 关节 活动及 流体力学 开始研究改进。
蔡李佛拳，中国拳术中南拳之一。相传为广东新会 京梅乡人 陈享 所传。他综合了 蔡家拳 、李家拳和 佛家拳 三家之长而形成一支新派，故名。该拳不仅在广东地区，而且在香港、澳门以及东南亚一带也较盛行。
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In general, works with people who can fly (lightness kung fu) are considered wuxia. Hence Huang Feihong doesn't qualify.
一般来说，只有一部作品里的人物能飞，这部作品才能算作“武侠”。因此黄飞鸿不合格。
dojima_no_ryu
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haha ok thanks for the info. I wonder what christians would reaact when they see wuxia cats walking on water and reviving paralyzed ppl with neigong
哈哈，好，谢谢楼上的信息。我不知道当基督徒们看到武侠们施展水上漂的功夫，瘫痪的人靠内功回复健康时会是什么反应。
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That'd be awesome. I'd love to read about closet perverted Christian nuns seducing wulin folks. Christian nuns and Buddhist nuns blaming each other for being witchy then slapping the hell outta each other wouldn't be bad either. Then, there should be some kind of trademark martial arts for Christians, say, Satan Subduing Thirdteen Palms, or Apocalyptic Divine Cross Technique.
那可真厉害。我希望能读到幽闭压抑的基督教修女引诱武林人士的故事。基督教修女和佛教和尚都认为对方受到了巫术蛊惑，因此试图将对方从地狱中拯救出来，这样的故事或许不坏。我想基督教应该有几种标志性武功，比如降魔十三掌、或是天启神圣十字架之术什么的。
dojima_no_ryu
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What would be cool as well would be maybe 2 divisions of christianity, like dark/light side of the force, with one side using wudang style 'soft' holy powers and another using 'hard' and cruel wugong.
我想这种情况应该也挺酷的：两个基督教门派同时存在，他们的关系就像光明与黑暗一般。一派使的是武当式的“柔性”神圣力量，另一派使的是“刚性”残暴的武功。
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i'll tell you what would happen, there would be the new sect known as vatican sect, with the staple move the thousand hands of christ, the item passed on to future generations would be the grail and the cross, to learn the ultimate skill u need to die and resurrect on third day (kind of like silk thingy in reincarnated)
让我来告诉你会发生什么：新的教派会产生，就像梵蒂冈教派一样。这个教派的主要招数是“千手基督”，他们将圣杯和十字架时代相传，如果要学终极技能，你就要先死亡，然后在第三天复活。（有点像《天蚕变》里那个蚕丝什么的玩意儿）
《天蚕变》是香港电视史上首部由剧本改篇为小说的长篇武侠电视剧。故事中主角云飞扬两度与独孤无敌交手，第一次重伤之余幸得天山雪莲，不但内伤全好，而且武功大进，第二次被沈曼君相救，无意间传以天蚕神功，面貌也发生了改变，不过终于练成「天蚕神功」，并且得到美人青睐。
由于主角演员的变换，监制惟有改动剧本，巧妙利用剧情，以主角练成"天蚕功"后，破茧易容，顺理成章换了另一主角顾冠忠，观众不但没有抗拒，反而拍案称绝。无线翡翠剧场雄霸长篇剧的神话不断被打破。
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kyss of the sword
there were branches of Christianity that followed a different type of believe then the modern mainstream beliefs that exist now. some of those ideals were similar to certain hindu beliefs as Christianity originated from near where Hinduism orignated. and some hindu beliefs are similar to daoist beliefs. so it's possible for christians in old times to learn and practice martial arts from china in ancient times.
基督教有着各种不同的信仰分支，最后演变为我们现在的主流信仰。其中有一些想法与印度教的思想十分相似，原因在于，基督教的起源地紧邻印度教起源地。而印度教信仰又与道教信仰相似，所以古时的基督教或许曾从古中国学来了武术，并且曾操练过它们。
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I wonder what kinds of Christianity themed martial arts there would be e.g. Foot Washing Palm.
我不知道以基督教为主的门派的大招能叫什么名字，比如洗脚掌（原文Foot Washing Palm）。
洗足礼：某些基督教派的一种宗教仪式，纪念基督在最后晚餐后为其子弟洗脚
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12 palms of the apostles. flaming sword of gabriel's wings. water parting staff of moses. water walking skill of jesus. fishing followers net techniques. serpent entering the heart skill of eden.
possiblities are endless.
使徒十二掌、加百利之神翼火剑、摩西分水杖法、基督之凌波微步，信徒撒网之术，伊甸毒蛇惑心之术。
没有不可能。
圣经中，主耶稣在门徒面前一共行了两次捕鱼的神迹。这两次神迹之间有许多类似之处，都是门徒首先整夜打渔可是打不到鱼，然后，听了主耶稣的话撒网，就打到许多的鱼，几乎都拉不上来。
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The 1st recorded incursions of Christian (actually not "mainstream" Christians but Nestorians) missionaries to China occurred in the Tang Dynasty. According to Wikipedia, Christianity had significant influence in the Mongol Empire, i.e.: in the Yuan Dynasty as well. I read somewhere that the Mongol/Yuan emperors used to receive visiting missions from the Pope in their courts. In fact, some Yuan emperors even kept a couple of missionaries as some kind of secondary advisor or teacher in their courts.
When it came to the Ming dynasty however, the rather nationalistic court tried to expel all foreign stuff, including Christianity. Outright persecution of Christians may not necessarily have happened then, but certainly the churches, missionary organizations were closed down, groups of worshippers dispersed.
记载中传教士第一次进入中国是在唐代（他们其实并不是“主流”基督徒，而是聂斯脱利派）。根据维基百科所说，基督徒在蒙古帝国，也就是元朝中有着重要影响。我曾在什么地方读到过蒙古/元朝的皇帝曾在朝堂之上接见过来自姜黄的传教士。实际上，一些元朝皇帝会任用几个传教士，这些人在一定程度上起着皇帝的参谋和老师的作用。
然而到了明朝，民族主义的官员想把所有外国的东西驱逐出国门，其中就包括基督教。对于基督教徒的直接破坏或许不曾发生，但是可以确定教会及传教组织曾被迫关闭，礼拜者的集会曾遭遇驱散。
聂斯脱利派：也称景教， 基督教 的一派，起源于5世纪时小亚细亚与叙利亚，受到聂斯脱利观点的启发。该派强调基督的神人二性各自独立。在阿拉伯征服波斯后，聂斯脱利派的学者在阿拉伯文化的形成中扮演着杰出的角色。聂斯脱利派的教义也传至印度、中国、埃及和中亚一带，某些地方的民族甚至被完全同化。
IMHO, Christianity in the form preached by these missionaries is unlikely to create individuals and groups to form martial arts sects along the model of Wudang etc. The emphasis of these missionaries was on proselytizing the religion and promoting the Christian lifestyle which is peaceful and non-violent.
However, considering that many Buddhist and Taoist temples (most notably Shaolin) developed a martial arts tradition over the years as a form of self-defence, given some more time and some persecutions, perhaps these groups of early Christians worshippers may develop such traditions as well.
我的想法是，建立在传教士之上的基督教很难参照武当派的路子发展出自己的大侠和门派。这些传教士的工作重点是传播基督教，改善信徒们的生活方式，而这些是和平的、非暴力的。
但是，考虑到许多佛教和道教寺庙（特别是少林寺）多年来发展出了一种自我防卫式的武术传统，如果中国的基督教在多经历一些时光，再多受到一些压迫，或许那些早期的基督徒也会发展出这样的传统。
Many people think that the Crusades represent a violent/aggressive form of Christianity (male versions of Miejue...LOL). Actually the Crusades were a social phenomenon created by the people in power at the time (the Pope and the Church, the kings and nobles, etc) for political reasons rather than being natural expressions of the ways of Jesus. They wanted to turn the attention of the people away from local problems with the economy and stuff. The conditions that initiated the Crusades (including the beliefs and perspectives of the crusaders) in Europe did not exist or even fit in medieval China.
许多人认为十字军东征代表了基督教极富暴力和侵略性的一面（男版灭绝师太，呵呵）。其实在当时，十字军东征是一种由掌权之人所造成的社会现象（教皇和教会，国王和贵族，等等），十字军东征更多的是出于政治原因，而不是基督教的本质使然。他们想要将人民的注意力从当地的本土的经济之类的问题上转移开来。而能促成十字军东征的社会环境在中世纪的中国并不存在，甚至也并不相近。
However, it is possible that someone in wulin may have converted to Christianity, and then tries to assimilate/integrate his/her new beliefs into the existing wulin/wuxia rules and practices. Hahah...really curious how this may turn out.
然而，武林中或许会有人愿意改信基督教，然后将他或她的新信仰与武林（武侠）中的规矩和习惯融会贯通。啊…结果会是如何呢，真令人好奇。
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If you had Christian Sects mixing it up in a wuxia setting, then it would only be fair to give the Christian fighters their share of 'powers' too.
There are enough Japanese anime out there with Knights and Clerics using flaming swords and summoning elemental powers etc etc.
如果基督教派和武侠融合，那么基督教战士也要和武侠们共享“力量”才算公平。
很多日本动漫中都有使用燃烧的剑，召唤元素力量的骑士和牧师角色。
Not too hard to imagine a fantasy world where the Apostle Palms can match the Luohan Fists, the 18 Satan Banishing Fists can match the 18 Dragon Subduing Palms, the 7 Seraphic Wings vs the 6 Meridian Divine Swords etc etc...
Fist of God vs Buddha Palm. Why didn't the HK film industry come up with something like that?
其实想像一个中国武侠与基督教武功共存的世界并不困难：使徒掌对罗汉拳，降魔十三拳对降龙十八掌，天使七翼对六脉神剑等等等等……
上帝之拳对如来神掌，为啥香港电影就没拍过这些呢？
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They'd do the the same things, they would just call it different things and credit everything to God.
Or they'd be like any given Samurai roaming around Jiang Hu.
他们会和大侠们做同样的事，只不过会有不同的叫法，并且会把一切都归功给上帝。
或者他们会像那些日本浪人一样，在江湖中逍遥漫游。
The thing is, the West had just as good martial arts as China or Korea or Japan. The reason that those arts have largely been lost is because the West industrialized a lot sooner than the East. The sword became nothing than an ornament once guns were manufactured on a large scale.
最重要的是，西方的武术其实和韩国、日本乃至中国一样强。原因在于，由于西方的工业化进程要比东方快得多，东方大量的武功已然失传。在枪支被大规模生产的今天，那些宝剑除了摆在家中做装饰品外，已毫无用处。
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回复“那可真厉害。我希望能读到幽闭压抑的基督教修女引诱武林人士的故……”
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The Arthurian romances would seem a pretty close fit.
亚瑟王传奇和这个就很像。
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Lancelot goes to China to...?
Unfortunately since Jesus didn't preach the gospel in the Central Plains and Jerusalem wasn't located there either a "Journey to the East" story might be kind of difficult to pull off, but I'm sure someone can come up with a plausible idea
兰斯洛特去中国做啥？
很不幸，基督从未到中原布道，耶路撒冷也不建在中国，而且“东游记”对西方来说也很难实现。不过我认为，肯定会有人提出一个合理的创意。
兰斯洛特：亚瑟王圆桌骑士中最出色的勇士，王后格温娜维尔的情人
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Just cook up some legend about the Holy Grail being brought to the Eastern Roman Empire in the early centuries, later in the chaos when the Seljuq forces swept through the Byzantine remnants, someone fled eastwards with it. So a band of knights journeys to Cathay chasing the myth.
Or just do a Gu Long. No need to bother with the world history or background. Start the prologue with some Knight wielding the unstoppable Excalibre with his Flaming Seraphic Blade skill laying waste to a combined Central Plain force. A young Shaolin disciple is sent with an urgent message to Wudang seeking the legendary Heaven Sword to meet this foreign challenge...
我们来虚构一个背景：圣杯在古代流落到了东罗马帝国，后来塞尔柱人消灭了拜占庭帝国的残部，一些人带着圣杯逃往东方。于是一队骑士前往中国追回圣杯，谱写了一场传奇。
或者直接效法古龙，不用管什么世界史或者故事背景。就以几个骑士的对话为开始，这些骑士使用锐不可当的截钢剑，拥有圣火之刃技能，意欲危害中原武林联盟。一位年轻的少林弟子被派遣向武当派送去一份紧急书信，从此踏上了寻找传说中的天剑，以抗击异国人侵犯的旅程……
11 世纪塞尔柱 突厥 人在中亚、 西亚 建立的伊斯兰国家(1037～1194)。亦称塞尔柱王朝。 塞尔柱人 属突厥乌古斯 部落联盟 4大部族的一支，初居突厥斯坦的 吉尔吉斯 草原，以其酋长塞尔柱(Saljuq)的名字命名。约于10世纪中期，塞尔柱率其游牧部族西迁至 锡尔河 下游的占德地区。后趁伽色尼王朝对外战争和内讧之机，扩大势力，逐渐兴起。11世纪塞尔柱家族统率乌古斯诸部侵入 西亚 建立的帝国，史称塞尔柱帝国。帝国极盛时领有 伊朗 、 美索不达米亚 、 小亚细亚 大部及 叙利亚 （包括 巴勒斯坦 ）等地。 乌古斯原系中国隋唐时期的“九姓”部落联盟，臣属突厥。
Excalibur王者之剑，本意为"cut seel",即截钢剑，是伴随着亚瑟王这位传说中的英雄而出现的圣剑。
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Marco Polo comes to China, joins a sect and comes back to Italy. Gets persecuted as a heretic, while spreading some central plains martial arts to the locals there. Shortly after his death the black death is spread. Crusaders needing a scapegoat to unite the people, blame the blackdeath on China and Marco Polo, and launch an expedition to first scout out this enemy, then attack on force.
Marco Polo's pupils travel to China to further their training, but when the Crusaders came, they decided to help their kin, telling all that they knew. And from there, Eastern martial arts is mixed with Western combat.
马可波罗去过中国，他曾加入一个门派然后回到了意大利。他虽然被视作异教徒遭到了迫害，依旧把一些武术传授给了当地民众。在他死后不久，黑死病爆发了。十字军为了团结群众，笼络人心，就把黑死病的一切罪责推到了中国和马可波罗身上。他们派人前往东方一探究竟，意图在掌握情报后发动进攻。
马可波罗的几位学生当时正在中国游历，他们所走过的地方比他的老师还深还广，但是当十字军来袭时，这些人觉得帮助他们的同族，将自己平生所学一一告知。从此，西方的格斗融入了东方武术的知识。
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duen jing-shun would still be a womanizer 'cept in this instance, he'd also be a cardinal.
haha, imagine wai siu-bo et al fleeing for the sanctuary of jerusalem or rome; of course, he'd have to pretend all his wives save one were is "sisters".
在这种情况下，段正淳也会是种马般的人物，而且他还会当上红衣主教。
哈哈，想想一下韦小宝等人逃往耶路撒冷或是罗马的圣地的情景；当然，他得保护他的那些老婆，解救那些“姐姐妹妹们”。
教廷大臣。枢机本意为枢纽、关键、重要之意。 枢机主教 是 天主教 会内仅次于 教宗 高级圣职幕僚，俗称教会亲王。教宗出缺时，按法律只有他们才有权选举教宗。拉斐尔的老丈人就是红衣主教。 |
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