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[五花八门] 一个台湾人对藏独的看法

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发表于 2008-5-7 17:34 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
14世代的传承中,有好几任dl喇嘛都是英年早逝,原因很简单,利益斗争,下毒暗杀,这就是为什么清朝朝廷最后给他们定下一个金瓶制度的原因,乾隆实在受不了这帮喇嘛们明争暗斗的暗杀了。
    这里就可以看出这些神权统治者的虚伪,自称活佛的人们为了利益勾心斗角,下毒暗杀,使劲卑鄙的手段。
    我曾经去过西藏旅游,接受过喇嘛,以及平民。
    你想知道西藏为什么会有矛盾吗?我告诉你我看到的原因。
    在中共进入前的西藏,西藏人口中有95%的农奴,以及剩下的土司(奴隶主)和僧侣阶层。
    那时候,每座寺庙,都拥有大片的土地,和成堆的农奴。
农奴们世代为奴,在祭祀的时候,奴隶主会砍下奴隶的手臂,拔下它们的皮,作为贡品。
    在dl过生日的时候,他都会命下密院的僧侣扒下两个小孩的皮作为牺牲,如果你现在去西藏的历史博物馆,你还能看到十四世dl离开西藏前亲手写的扒皮命令。
    然而西藏的那些文盲农奴们虔诚的信仰者活佛。你大概不知道在藏药中,活佛的粪便是一种药物,藏民们争相收集活佛们的粪便用于治病。
    奴隶主在招待客人的时候,待客的方法就是和客人一起轮 奸自己的女奴隶,这很容易理解,他们认为这是热情好客的体现,因为这是在分享女人
    中共在西藏搞了土地改革,不过老共的手段是很狠的,那些奴隶主甭管是否愿意,都必须交出土地,释放奴隶,免除债务。
    土地改革是在1957年开始搞的,接着西藏就爆发了武装暴动,奴隶主们反抗了,然后就是中共的镇压,接着是dl的出逃,但是,班禅没有逃,他选择留了下来,因为他赞成土地改革。
    这也造成了西藏的一种特殊的族群分裂:平民与僧侣结层的割裂。那些底层的老百姓藏民们,如果你去西藏玩的时候,可以留意一下,西藏一般的农牧民家中,都是把毛泽东的肖像和菩萨挂在一起供奉的,因为他们的祖辈都是农奴,是毛给了他们土地和自由。老共现在的民族政策,藏族的教育医疗住房全部都有政府的补助,这也是一般的平民藏族百姓对独立不积极的原因。
    但是僧侣以及以前的土司后代可不这么想,在他们眼中,毛泽东和中共是剥夺他们土地和财产得罪人,不仅如此,在历次的中共镇压中,这些人的上辈或者亲属,或有被关押或有被枪决,可谓苦大仇深。
    所以你如果走在拉萨街头,你会发现宣传独立最积极的人,不是喇嘛就是以前的贵族后代。
    这些人一直在闹,中共拿他们没办法,因为在西藏这个地方,教育太落后了,藏族的文化太落后了,这也是他们为什么如此虔诚的信仰神灵的原因,你能想象一个拿到物理学硕士的人去寺庙里对那些泥菩萨磕上十万的头么?但是藏民会,藏民会把家里最聪明的孩子送去作喇嘛,因为在他们的传统中,社会是分等级的,喇嘛是最高贵的,这就是神权社会的典型特点。
    因为有着这种神权社会的特点,所以中共对喇嘛是很头疼的。你大概不知道,西藏的每座寺庙的活佛,都享受中共国务院的特殊补助的,换句话说,是中共在养寺庙,养喇嘛,你看每座寺庙都金碧辉煌,这些金子钱都是内地的政府出的。
    但是喇嘛们还是会闹事的。很简单,你再怎么给他们补助,他们以前的土地没了,努力也没了,风光得社会地位也削弱了,他们不满。
    西藏人如果想要一个幸福的未来,喇嘛阶层是最大的绊脚石。你知道现在最想发展西藏文化的是谁吗?是中共。因为最听从喇嘛的话,最容易被操纵的,就是那些文化水平很低的藏民了。
    所以中共在西藏使劲的盖学校,内地的大学毕业生如果志愿去西藏教几年书,回来后就可以免费读硕士博士,内地的大学对西藏的学生向来是超低分录取。不过,在一个平均海拔5000米的地区,特别是半年都是积雪的地区,办学校和医院不是那么容易的事情。西藏有30多个台湾大,但是人口不及台北的一半。怎么才能让居住如此分散的游牧人都能接受教育?这需要高昂的投资。
    中共的想法就是,藏族的文化水平能够高起来,不再那么愚昧,当所有的藏民生病的时候能去医院作个检查,而不是去寺庙吃活佛的粪便的时候,喇嘛们也就没那么容易煽动藏民了,西藏也就好管理多了,当然这样的话喇嘛也没市场和地位了,这就是喇嘛们目前所面临的生存危机。所以中共在西藏盖的学校和医院,是这次西藏动乱中的首选攻击目标。
    喇嘛们是容不得藏民学习文化的,一个学过生物学的人,他生病的时候会去找喇嘛们吃粪便吗?
    喇嘛们不是地球上唯一阻碍科学传播的人。还记得黑暗的欧洲中世纪吗?还记得宗教法庭吗?当科学和知识传播的时候,神权统治者们就会发抖,当藏民们知道地球是圆的,绕招太阳转的时候,他们就再也不会相信喇嘛们说的大地边缘的十八层地狱。
    西藏,正处于一个现代文明和神权文化阶层剧烈冲突的时代。
    正如宗教法庭绝对不会饶过哥白尼和伽利略,他们不会自觉地退出历史舞台,喇嘛们也是。所以这个文明冲撞的过程中,你必然会看到斗争,明的,暗的,和平的,暴力的,决不会戛然而止。
    撕开人权”“自由的外衣,这是一场神权奴隶制与现代文明的冲突。
    中共如果真的想把西藏经营好,让藏人们都过上富裕现代化的生活,就应该多盖学校和监狱,学校送给藏民,监狱送给喇嘛。
    我建议各位网络上的朋友们去西藏玩一玩,不要跟旅行团,也不要只去寺庙,去乡村,去草原,去看看西藏的原生态,去那些农牧民的家中,看看他们对中共和毛泽东的观点,看看他们辛勤的劳作,看看他们作过奴隶的祖父祖母那残缺的手臂,和没有文化的朴实,再去看看喇嘛们悠闲舒适的生活,听听他们对政府的不满。
    你会明白谁是人权真正的践踏者。
发表于 2008-5-7 17:49 | 显示全部楼层
顶了,这个文章发过了
发表于 2008-5-7 17:50 | 显示全部楼层
我也顶顶,呵呵
发表于 2008-5-7 17:59 | 显示全部楼层
我也顶!!
发表于 2008-5-7 18:27 | 显示全部楼层
英文版翻译:

Taiwan people's views on Tibet independence

14 generations of memory, several untimely death of the Dalai Lama are the simple reason that the interests of the struggle, poisoning the assassination, which is why the Qing imperial court final set to give them a bottle of the system because it is the Qianlong lamas are not delinquents tinge of assassinated.
   
     These can be seen here on the divine right rulers of hypocrisy, claiming to be "Living Buddha" for the interests of Gouxindougu people, the assassination of poisoning, do despicable means.
   
     I have been to Tibet tourism, contacts lamas, as well as civilians.
   
     Do you want to know why there were contradictions in Tibet? I tell you I saw the reason.
   
     Before entering the Chinese Communist Party in Tibet, the Tibetan population is 95 percent of the serfs, and the remaining Chieftain (his master), and monks in class.
   
     At that time, each of temples, with large tracts of land, and piles of serfs.
   
     Serfs were slaves for generations, in the shrine, when the slave master will be scored in the arm, unplugging their skin, as a tribute.
     Dalai Lama in his birthday, he will be the fate of House of monks Baxia two children Paper as a sacrifice, if you are to Tibet Museum, you can see the 14th Dalai Lama left Tibet prior written personally Paper expense order.
   
     But those illiterate serfs in Tibet have lights male disaffection Su Qian Fu Zhen D furostanol greatest toad Norwegian restore  floods Democratic Party holds important ┲ school  Fu cormorants raised S is a drug, and the Tibetan people are competing to collect the droppings for the Living Buddha cure .
     Slaveholders in honor of the guests, the way is hospitality and guests with their female slaves **, it is easy to understand, they think this is the embodiment of the hospitality, because it is "sharing women."
   
     Communist China in Tibet engage in a "land reform", but a means of the old is tough, and those who do not bother willing to slaveholders, must surrender land, the release of slaves, cancellation of debt.
     Agrarian Reform in 1957 began pursuing, and then Tibet outbreak of armed insurrection against their slaveholders, and then is the suppression of the CPC, followed by the Dalai Lama fled, but the Panchen Lama did not flee, he chose to stay, because he was in favour of agrarian reform.
   
     It also created a special Tibet "ethnic separatism": civilians and monks class fragmented. The bottom of the Tibetan people who are, if you play to Tibet, we can look at, and the farmers and herdsmen in Tibet民家general, is a portrait of Mao Zedong and worship Buddha linked together, because their grandparents are serfs, Mao is to their land and freedom. Now a total of the old national policy, the Tibetan medical education have all government housing subsidies, this is the general civilian population of Tibetan independence is not positive reasons.
   
     But monks and the previous Chieftain future generations may think so, in their eyes, Mao Zedong and the Chinese Communists are depriving them of their land and property offending people, not only that, in the suppression of communist China in the past, these people Shangbei or relatives, or have been detained or was executed, it Gudachoushen.
   
     So if you walk the streets in Lhasa, you will find that the most active independent advocacy, lama is not the nobility previous generations.
   
     These people have been made trouble with the Chinese Communists did not approach them, because this place in Tibet, is too far behind in education, the Tibetan culture is very backward, and this is why they have such a devout belief in the cause of God, can you imagine a get physics Master of the people to those in the temples on the mud Buddha Ke 100,000 on the first? However, the Tibetan people will be, and the Tibetan people will be at home most intelligent children sent to lamas because of their traditions, and society is graded, Lama is the most noble, and that this is typical of divine right social characteristics.
   
     Because it had the divine right of this social characteristics, the CPC is a headache for the lamas. You probably do not know that Tibet's temples each of the Living Buddha, the Communist Chinese are enjoying the special subsidies, in other words, the Chinese Communists in custody temples, Yang Lama, you see each of temples are splendid, gold money in the Mainland of the government.
   
     But lamas who will still make trouble. Very simple, how you will give them subsidies, they did not land, not efforts, the social status of scenery has also weakened, and their discontent.
   
     Tibetans If you want a happy future, lamas class is the largest mixed-feet. You most want to know now is the development of the Tibetan culture Who? Communist China. Because the most obey Lama, the most easily manipulated, that is, those low level of education of the Tibetan people.
   
     Therefore, the CPC Tibet feel like work in the build schools, the university graduates to volunteer if the Tibet a few years, could be free to return after Reading MA, Ph.D., University of Tibet Mainland students has always been a low-taking. However, in an average elevation of 5,000 meters, in particular the six months are snow areas, schools and hospitals is not so easy. Tibet has more than 30 Taiwan, but a population less than half of Taipei. So how can we let live nomadic people scattered acceptable education? This requires high investment.

     China's idea is that the Tibetan cultural level to high, and no longer ignorance, when all of Tibetans sick time to go to the hospital for inspection, rather than to the temple to eat faeces of the Living Buddha, lamas also not so easy inciting Tibetans, Tibet is also more like management, of course, so the market has not lamas and status, and this is the lamas are currently facing a "crisis of survival." Therefore, the CPC Tibet build schools and hospitals, unrest in Tibet is the target of choice.
   
     Tibetan lamas who are not tolerate a culture of learning, of the biology of a person, and he will be sick when they eat faeces lamas go?
   
     Lamas are not the only obstacles on Earth Science Communication people. Also remember the dark Middle Ages in Europe? Remember that religious courts? When science and the dissemination of knowledge, the divine right rulers will tremble, when Tibetans know the earth is round, the sun turn around when they no longer believe that the earth Lama said that the edge of 18-storey hell .
   
     Tibet, and is now in a spirit of modern civilization and culture class fierce conflicts.
   
     As religious courts will not Raoguo Copernicus and Galileo, they would not consciously quit the stage of history, are also lamas. Therefore, this civilization in the process of collision, you will see that struggle, that is, dark and peaceful, violence, and never will be halted.
   
     Broken through "human rights" and "freedom" while it is a divine right of slavery and the modern clash of civilizations.
   
     If we really want to CPC Tibet operating well so that the Tibetan people live a prosperous modern life, it should have built schools and prisons, schools gave the Tibetan people, the prison gave lamas.
   
     I recommend that my friends on the network to Tibet Play not with the tour will not only go to the temple to villages, to prairie, to Tibet to see the original ecology, and to those peasants and herdsmen's homes to see if they the views of the CPC and Mao Zedong, hard look at their crafts to see if they made a slave grandfather and grandmother that defects in the arm, and the absence of a culture of simple, seeing again lamas are leisurely and comfortable life, listen to the Government discontent.

     You  will  find  the  Dalai Lama  is  really  a  Belial  who  against  human rights.
发表于 2008-5-7 19:07 | 显示全部楼层
顶!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
中国政府为藏民做的事!藏族老百姓心里清楚!!!!!!!!!!!
发表于 2008-5-7 23:44 | 显示全部楼层
我们需要理解、对话与交流。
发表于 2008-5-8 05:29 | 显示全部楼层
You  will  find  the  Dalai Lama  is  really  a  Belial  who  against  human rights.
发表于 2008-5-8 12:24 | 显示全部楼层
前几天,我刚从四川康定贡嘎山地区旅行回来,康定是从成都进入藏区的第一步,这里居住的大部分是藏族人,带我进山的向导就是位五十多岁的藏族大叔。同行多日,我们也曾谈起zd的问题和前阵子四川阿坝地区发生的一些骚乱事件,大叔说“现在的生活这么好,比我小时候不知道要好多少,这些娃娃为什么还要闹啊,我们藏族人现在都过得很好。”
当我问起,这段时间康藏地区有没有人出来捣乱的时候,大叔的回答给我很深的印象“闹什么闹嘛,藏族和汉族都是一个妈妈的娃娃,而且妈妈还偏向藏族一些,汉族娃娃不要不满才好”,当时我笑了,因为大叔的幽默,同时我也很高兴,因为这是一个怎正的藏族平民老百姓最朴实的心理话。

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发表于 2008-5-8 12:52 | 显示全部楼层
永远----------顶~~~
发表于 2008-5-8 16:42 | 显示全部楼层
我也才从这里了解西藏!
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发表于 2008-5-8 17:02 | 显示全部楼层
ding~~~~~
发表于 2008-5-8 18:36 | 显示全部楼层
顶,让更多人看到
发表于 2008-5-8 19:17 | 显示全部楼层
As religious courts will not Raoguo Copernicus and Galileo, they would not consciously quit the stage of history, are also lamas. Therefore, this civilization in the process of collision, you will see that struggle, that is, dark and peaceful, violence, and never will be halted.
发表于 2008-5-8 21:36 | 显示全部楼层
长见识了,顶了!
发表于 2008-5-9 03:52 | 显示全部楼层
顶,让更多人看到
发表于 2008-5-9 08:44 | 显示全部楼层
顶,其实咋中国人真的是一家人,至少在俺心里很少有民族之分,反正是概念很模糊,更多是地域性区别,以北京人,广东人,东北人,河南人,新疆人,西藏人等等来区分的了,总之都是中国人。
发表于 2008-5-9 17:23 | 显示全部楼层
无视一个地方的具体情况,把非洲和不甚发达的地方看成是西方体制可以自然生根的成熟社会。在人民的教育程度、法治的社会完善之前,就激进推行民主化,其结果往往令人沮丧,甚至是灾难性的

人民的教育程度不够高,社会的法治不完善,14亿人口的国家,很容易陷入混乱中,使人民遭殃,生灵涂炭

为何你们看不见?还是故意这么做。。。

混乱的自由,无原则的自由,我们不需要。 中国高呼:我们需要有秩序的自由。

看一看非洲、中东的的贫穷和战乱。。。
发表于 2008-5-10 05:59 | 显示全部楼层
现在的生活这么好,比我小时候不知道要好多少,这些娃娃为什么还要闹啊,我们藏族人现在都过得很好。
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