这篇报道的读者评论比较多，也挺有意思的。不过因为是读者即兴的表达，可能个别地方按照行文翻译出来会造成某种程度的不习惯，请大家见谅。第一个Jason Ma看来比较愤慨，一口气发了3则评论，呵呵。
August 12th, 2008 5:47 am GMT
You are puting meaning to the facts, not other people. Do you think it’s not necessary to offer people safety?
- Posted by Jason Ma
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就是你而不是其他人在给事实添料！你认为保证人们的安全不是必要的吗？
August 12th, 2008 5:58 am GMT
Personally, I don’t believe politics, but I believe in innocence. You don’t have to distort the facts to mislead people to hospitality because we had too much of it. I know you are eager to see China fall into a living hell like Iraq to serve your vicious purpose- so called democracy, actually nasty greed. Your brothers invaded Iraq killing innocent people there and getting killed every day while you are here pointing your finger at somebody else. It’s ridiculous. Going through the history book, people will find robbers are always robbers no matter under what name, their blood-sucking nature stays the same.
- Posted by Jason Ma
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我个人不相信政治，但我相信世界上有清白这回事。你没必要歪曲事实去误导人们，我们受够了。我知道你们急于看到中国陷入如同伊拉克一样的人间炼狱以满足不可告人的目的：所谓的民主，事实上就是见不得人的欲望。你们的兄弟入侵伊拉克，每天那里都有许多无辜的人被屠杀而你现在竟然指责别人，真是可笑。让我们去回顾一下历史，就会发现抢劫犯即使改了名字也改不了他们吸血的本性。
August 12th, 2008 6:05 am GMT
Look at these soilders in the pictures you took, did you see them shoot and rape people in other countries? Did you?
- Posted by Jason Ma
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看看这些图片里的士兵，你看到过他们在其他国家的土地上射杀、强奸民众吗？你看到过吗？
August 12th, 2008 6:21 am GMT
Jason Ma, i regret but i only can agree with you. the so-called ‘world police’ is taking even the tiniest chance to try their ugly propaganda tricks. look at georgia, where they’ve bought another corrupt politician and wage their next proxy terrorist war.
- Posted by Stephan
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Jason Ma, 很遗憾但我不得不同意你的看法。所谓的“世界警察”不放过哪怕一点点机会来尝试他们令人作呕的宣传伎俩。看看格鲁吉亚，他们收买了又一个腐败政治家，并准备为他代理发动下一场恐怖战争买单。
August 12th, 2008 7:03 am GMT
As an ordinary Chinese, what I saw from the pictures simply the good will trying to provide security to the journalists coming from all over the world.
Nothing more than that.
But if you don\’t like to be well protected, we shall suggest our government to retrieve such vehicles.
Then, if anything happens, you guys will have another story far beyond fact.
Better stay to what you see with your own eyes.
That\’s the key to keep fact as it is.
- Posted by Christine DG
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作为一个普通的中国人，我从图片里看到的就是设法保证来自世界各地的记者的安全，没有其他的了。但是如果你不需要被保护，我们会建议政府撤掉装甲车。然后一旦发生什么，你们这些家伙就会写出另一个与事实不符的故事。就相信你自己亲眼看到的，这才是事实的关键所在。
August 12th, 2008 8:00 am GMT
“Which is right? Are both? Are neither?”
Why don’t you ask the Chinese authorities and get an answer from them and report it?
Isn’t that what reporters do?
- Posted by Confused
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“哪个判断是正确的？两个都是，亦或两个都不是？”为什么你不去问问中国当局，把他们的答案报道出来？这难道不是记者们该干的活？
August 12th, 2008 8:36 am GMT
It is the first time in my life I have seen a tank guarding a sports event. Quite an alarming image, that’s all…
- Posted by Even more confused
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这是我平生第一次看到体育比赛中出动坦克车。这是相当令人震惊的画面，这就是我看到的……
August 12th, 2008 9:04 am GMT
The american got killed by a man that was unstable, I am sure china is very safe.
- Posted by Tammy
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那个美国人是被一个精神有问题的人刺杀的，我确信中国是非常安全的。
August 12th, 2008 9:19 am GMT
to ‘confused’. sorry, but reporters don’t report facts anymore. they report what they think their audience wants to hear or what their superiors wants them to report. there are no ‘facts’ in this world anymore, just opinions. the ‘fact’ that this picture was choosen amongst the millions of other facts tells you the truth: it’s a naked provocation. selection of so-called facts can be (and today mostly is!)a lie……
- Posted by Stephan
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回“confused”：不好意思，不过记者们再也不报道事实真相了。报道他们想让听众听到的或是上级领导要求他们报道的。在这个世界再也没有“事实”，有的只是看法。选择这些照片加上其他无数的事实告诉人们的真相就是：赤裸裸的挑衅。所谓事实的选择可能是（今天这个基本就是！）谎言……
August 12th, 2008 9:27 am GMT
and to ‘even more confused’: did you ever see a ‘tank’ before? i found this one painted quite friendly. do you remember the massacre 1972 at the olympic games in munich?
- Posted by Stephan
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回“even more confused”：你曾经看到过‘坦克’吗？我觉得这个画面是相当友好的。你是否记得1972年慕尼黑奥运会的大屠杀？
August 12th, 2008 11:28 am GMT
I quite agree with Stephan. It is the same story everywhere. Every news channel / site reports their ‘opinions’. It is individuals who report them and as individuals are not always balanced, it is not always that we get the so called ‘true picture’. As a result, what is reported feeds into the preconceived notions and ideas of the rest of us. I see an attempt to make the Games safe. In today’s insane world, not taking precautions is foolhardy in the extreme.
- Posted by Hunter Green
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我相当赞同Stephan，到处都是一样的故事。各个新闻频道/网站报道他们的“看法”。是个人在做报道而个人本身并不总能保持平衡。我们并非总能得到所谓的“真实的图片”，因此被报道的往往迎合了其他人先入为主的观念和看法。我看到是力求奥运安全的努力。在今天这个癫狂的世界，不采取任何预防措施才是极端愚蠢的。
August 12th, 2008 11:31 am GMT
Trouble is disembodied facts can be connected in many ways, like a random pattern of dots. It’s the obligation of a journalist to try to impose some order on these disorderly collections. In the absence of some reason to assume a benign premise a journalist must assume the benign.
That doesn’t mean the premise shouldn’t be tested, but any old theory won’t do, unless you are a wacky conspiracy buff for whom selective fact-choosing is positively required.
Take your question, and these pictures, and here are three facts: the Chinese government is denying unfettered internet access to Olympics journalists. The journalists complained loudly. There is now a tank in front of the press center.
Coincidence? You be the judge … or, should you be?
- Posted by John C Abell
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就像随机的点一样，麻烦暗藏着一些看似无意义的事实，可以通过很多方法被联系起来。记者的职责就是设法将这些混乱的联系理出头绪来。哪怕记者无法证明事主出于好意，也得先假定事主并无恶意。我并不是说不需要对意图进行分析，但除非你是个古里古怪的阴谋论者，否则没人会故意选择性地接受事实。回答你的问题，这些图片包含了三个事实：中国政府拒绝向奥运记者放开互联网管制、记者大声地抱怨、现在新闻中心门前出现了坦克。是个巧合吗？你是个法官？你应该是个法官吗？
August 12th, 2008 6:14 pm GMT
Of course the safety of the Games is most important but China has to be careful not to portray themselves (unless they are deliberately wanting to) as overbearing, heavy handed dictators. The authoritive, wooden like, goose stepping soldiers handling the flag at the opening ceremonies, the massive display of manpower all in unision to pull off the ceremonies, the control of the internet, the independent Chinese handling of doping, all of these things say to the western world that China is a non tolerant, brutal dictatorship. “One World, One Dream” even seems to be saying… “One China, One Communist World”.
- Posted by Neal
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当然奥运的安全是最重要的，但中国必须注意不要把自己（除非他们是故意的）表现成专制和铁腕的独裁者。开幕式上那些威严的、死板板的、迈着鹅步升旗充分展示力量的士兵，对互联网的管制，独立进行药检……这些都在向西方表明中国是个缺乏宽容、残酷的独裁体。“同一个世界、同一个梦想”似乎更像在说…“同一个中国、同一个共产世界”。
August 12th, 2008 9:37 pm GMT
Neal is obviously someone who falls into what the media wants. Neal has probably never left the country or has been to China. I was not born in China but I have been there, there is poverty in some places the wealthy in others, some places blow the mind.
But to say they are a brutal dictatorship is completely inaccurate. Sometimes the truth falls in the middle. Obviously China has some bad stuff that leads them to this view but they miss the good that the Govt. does.
But to say the Govt. controls the people is completely inaccurate. People do as they want, but there are a few restrictions. That is like saying the SEC, IRS, and other regulatory boards are US’s dictatorship. and the US is a bunch of controling hypocrates.
- Posted by Jason
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Neal明显中了媒体的计。Neal恐怕从来没离开过自己的国家也没来过中国。我不是中国人但我现在在这里，这个国家确实存在贫富差距，让人灰心。但要说中国是个残酷的独裁体完全不正确。我们得不偏不倚来看问题。显然中国有些不好的方面导致人们有了那样的印象但这些人忽视了中国政府好的方面。而说中国政府控制了人民也是完全不正确的。人们做他们想做的事情，当然有一些限制。那种说法好比说证券交易委员会、国税局和其他规划部门是美国的独裁体一样，照这样看美国就是由一群伪君子控制的了。
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