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[英文版]我身为藏族,可我为我的某些同胞感到不齿!

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发表于 2008-4-12 15:09 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
原作:无敌哥 译者:清晰的头脑 转自:铁血论坛

My hometown is in Aba, where there are Tibetan, Qiangzhu, Han mainly. I am a Tibetan. If you have doubt about my identity, please check my ID card No. :51322219*****0473.

I hope some of Tibetan people can make an inspection for your own behavior after reading this article.

To chase the freedom is so fascinating, to chase the sky belonging to ourselves is so beautiful. But what I can not understand is why we need to chase freedom, while we have already got the freedom? Now your behavior, has already made our brotherhood, our government feel ashamed. You’re right, you need your own history and we need our belief to extend the great spirit of King Gesharer. When I was in Seda Buddhism Institute, I’ve read the full story of King Geshar, who is the proud of our Tibetan, even whole China. King Geshar is a hero. He made us live a good life, but can Dalai Lama do it? I hereby need to talk to you about which one is doing better to make us live good life, King Geshar or Communist Party. I don’t want to talk about Dalai, he makes me feel ashamed, and he can not compare with Communist Party.

Seruo, Zhuoda, Dunzhu, you guys come to this forum very often, but what you said shows that you’ve forgotten what your parents taught you – somebody helped you, you need to appreciate and repay their kindness. Remember the story Grandpa Geden used to tell us?

If you forget, I can remind you:

Tibetan knows how to appreciate

Grandpa said our Tibetans have been really liberated just after liberation. We were no longer suffered from our lords, we were no longer slaves, no longer their long-term workers. Government gave us yak and sheep, the grassland, even the lord’s house has been distributed to us. Afterwards, PLA’s road-building team arrived. They built the road to Lhasa, the government really manage to succeed to do it. Grandpa said, it was so difficult to build the road. The soldiers were using dynamite to explode the mountain, but on that day, 17 soldiers died, because the stones fallen buried them under the road. The soldiers delivered us the salt, the tea, but they never wanted repay. They only said, these were offered by the government. So folks carried the Qinke (high land barley) leaves to feed the truck, because they thought the truck were tired after carrying so much goods. Afterwards, the soldiers left even two trucks for us, and they didn’t want anything. Then we heard the road to Lhasa had been finished, and we really could take bus to go to Lhasa.

Then, there was drought, the yak and sheep were so slim, the snow was heavy in winter, so many yak and sheep died. We were desperate, but at this time, Government said the trucks from Chengdu had began to deliver goods to us. We didn’t believe at first, but lots of truck delivered foods, quilts, and everything we needed within several days. Our parent generation kneed down on the grassland, to thank government, Communist Party, Chairman MAO, but not to the god, not to Dalai. We Tibetans thank our motherland, thank the support from our people.

Then, Chairman JIANG became the leader and he has done lots of things for us.

TO: THE MOBSTER:

Our generation has seen this:

I want to ask you: Seruo, who installed your electrical light in your home? Who installed your “wok cover” (satellite receiver)? Who built the hospital in our village? Where the doctors come from? Who spent money to build the road? Who laid the telephone line for us? Who paid our sisters and brothers’ study cost? Who gave us allowance while we were suffering natural disaster? The landslide flooded your relative’s house, who built him a new one? You have some accomplishment, you went oversea to study, but do you remember Professor ZHANG from Sichuan University? He financially supported you to study oversea, but what are you doing? What you have done to our country? How your family, your benefactors will see you?

Last year, the railway has been built. In fact, we are poor or not? You know, we are not poor, but Dalia is still exploiting us.

His lackey randomly got a “Living Buddha” name, then sitting in the temple, touch the heads of folks. Then our people donate lots of money to the temple. Communist Party has helped us so much, but we don’t even pay the basic tax. They think we are poor, so free our tax. We gave all our money to the temple, then asked the government to give us allowance food. Did government say anything? They only said: we respect minority religious belief.

You have suffered crackdown? Who killed you? Nobody did that. You kind of people deserve to be spurned by all the people.

TO SO CALLED INTERNATIONAL FRIENDS:

I know, you and my brotherhood are friends, and they recommend you to come to this forum. And this is written to you:

We are in China, and our minority is enjoying the same treatment, or even better treatment than other nationality. You heard that Tibetans are abused by China, and the government crackdown the riots without any humanity, whole Tibetan people, even all Tibetans begin the riots and request the independence. It is fake to say that Chinese government didn’t construct and develop Tibet. I will tell you that what happened in my hometown. Don’t believe them anymore! What I am saying could be more reliable than what they say.

Chinese government has been constructing Tibet since reformation. The real factors are as follows:

1. Tibet is one of the districts where the tax has been cancelled very early.

2. There is no so called “no freedom” in Tibet. We have been planned as Autonomous District. We Tibetans are managing our own Tibet, and enjoying the help from our country. Chinese government always promotes “Harmony” and they spend a lot of national reserved fund to financially support our university students, support Tibet construction, develop the education, light-industry, etc.

3. Chinese government has built the highest QINGZHANG Railway to develop Tibet, to have better economic development of Tibet. Chinese government has helped Tibetan people with full energy even while there are natural disasters.

4. Other nationalities of China are not looking down on Tibetans. They regard us as brothers, and we are enjoying same treatment as other Chinese civilians. There is no such a thing as discrimination.

5. Tibetans thank communist party and our motherland. There is no such a thing as “all Tibetans are requesting uprising for independence”. In my hometown, 70% of population is Tibetans, but there are only above mentioned individuals who have their politics desires. The ratio is 1/4000, and these people have been called as gangsters by us. You are civilized people, free-chasing people, so I guess you will not help those gangsters who even their own nationality are spurning. And hope you will not be blinded by them.

6. Tibetans are not poor, our average income are higher than lots of other places in China. In my hometown, averagely, every family has 40 yak, 100 sheep. Every year, the income we get from selling yak, sheep, wool, medicines are over 100,000 RMB. Average personal income is around 20,000RMB. But the folks in my hometown admire religious culture, and the money has been collected by the Dalai Clique by using folks’ religious belief in a half-force method, to be used as their riot fund. Chinese government respect minority religious belief and help Tibetans.

7. Tibetans have not been beaten down during this riot. Only those mobsters have been arrested by military polices, and police following international custom. To arrest those mobsters who attack police are usual, I guess it’s same in your country. If the policeman has been beaten, I think you will use force as well, right? However, our policemen had to be very patient, didn’t fire bullets to them. All the Chinese people including Tibetans request government to use the force to crackdown this riot. But government is still using persuading policy.

I believe my brother will not deny the above mentioned point. You can ask them to explain the above.
发表于 2008-4-12 16:51 | 显示全部楼层
真诚而朴实!林子大了,什么鸟都有。上百万人中有几个小丑是抹黑不了整个藏族的。藏族人中有几个暴乱分子这样的小丑,更有格萨尔王这样的英雄 。
发表于 2008-4-12 17:23 | 显示全部楼层
support you!!!!!!!
 楼主| 发表于 2008-4-12 17:23 | 显示全部楼层

续:

TO DALAI:

What you have done, Dalai? You took away our money from selling yak and sheep, and now you are trying to take away our happiness.

The riots happened this year! You, Dalai said, we need freedom, our Tibetan people need freedom, so we need independence.

Dalai, I will call direct this name now. I believe you can see, for, your lackeys will let you know what I’ve said. I don’t need to say first whether communist party is right or wrong, but I’ll analyze the results if Tibet really gets independence.

1. After the independence, Tibet will face economic disaster.

You know, Tibet folks’ main income is from yak, sheep, medicine and other stockbreeding business. If the independence is realized, our motherland become enemy country, and economic connection will be stopped. In Tibet province and other area, there are around 3 million population. What we will use to be the economic resources? Our yak and sheep can not be sold to Chengdu, Lanzhou anymore. We can depend on India? India is a big farm country, and with Chinese force now, China can request India to cut any relationship with Tibet (including economy and military). Then, Tibet becomes next Mongolia, surrounded by two big countries, no export exit, then you can not get your godfather’s USA’s direct economic and military support. The main income of Tibet will die, and people will become slaves again. (You don’t care the people, since you only care about yourself.)

2. Military

There is no heavy industry in Tibet, so we can not build military products by own. If there is no economic income, what you will use to exchange weapons? USA may give you some weapons, but that will be too little. How your lackeys can use a simple gun to fight against tanks, plane of PLA? Without your own army, how you can be independent? India will help you? Last time when you went there, what Indian Prime Minister talked to you? He doesn’t support your exile government. India doesn’t want to be enemy of China, then will you go? Pakistan just beside Tibet is China’s alliance, don’t even think about to have good relationship with them. Other countries are all alliances of Russia, so, do you think Russia will give up China to stand with you? You are dreaming!

3. People’s Support

Don’t think too highly yourself. You think all Tibetans are under your leadership? You are wrong! We Tibetans are people as well, means we know who are treating us well, and who are exploiting us. You think we will stand together with you? These riots can show you a fact: In Lhasa, there are less than 1 thousand; in whole Tibetan area, there are less than 10,000. I make you a full account, 10,000, means 1/300 is under your leadership. If you cancel the several hundred RMB you paid to those people per day, I guess there will be only 1000 people means 1/3000 with you. No need army, our Tibetans can use spit to drown all of your lackeys. You have no people’s support, and you have no shame to say your will be next MAO Zhedong? You’re insulting him. You think there are still folks donating money to you in the temple, so all Tibetans are backing you up? Believing you? Wrong! Old generation might do that, but next time your so called living Buddha is cheating money again, check how many young people will give you money? I could say basically no more!

4. Beliefs:  

Now, your power begins to be weaker and weaker, did you notice that? How many young people are still believing you? How many people are still trusting you? Your behaviors have been regarded as a joke. You are acting as monkey of Tibetans? My living Buddha, you are performing in the world, how much they pay you for that? You shamed us. Since you are ashamed, how can we still trust you? Do you know we can not trust a monkey?

TO MY BROTHERS

Seruo, Zhuoda, Dunzhu, I tell you, you have violated Chinese Law, violated bottom line of our Chinese morality. Last time, government forgave you, but we will not forgive you. If you will still behave like this, I will wait for you in Chengdu. No need others to act, I will kill you! Your parents called me, said that you haven’t contacted home for more than half a year. They worried about you, but I didn’t tell them you have become dogs of Dalai. I am afraid your parents will kill you. Maybe you could be important talent of China, but doing this, you will die. Your brother, me, I am not a weak person. I can see clearly who is the real one deserves to be the leader of Tibetan and bring us to be rich and make Chinese to stand at top of the world.

You’ve changed your mobile, so I can not contact you. But I know you always come to this forum, so I hope you will not do bad things anymore. Please go to turn yourself to police, don’t do bad behavior anymore. Folks from hometown, your parents, your friend will not forgive you. You made Tibetans lost face already. Now when I read about Tibetans riot, I want to cry. I want to argue that Tibetans are also nationality in China. But who will listen? I only can tell all my friends, we, Tibetans are not as you imagined; we are not mobsters.

My brother, please don’t do this anymore.

_完_
[ 本帖最后由 szhao 于 2008-4-12 17:52 编辑 ]
 楼主| 发表于 2008-4-12 17:27 | 显示全部楼层

原文:我身为藏族,可我为我的某些同胞感到不齿!

作者:无敌哥 转自:铁血论坛

我的家乡在四川阿坝州,在我的家乡,主要是藏族,羌族,汉族为主。我就是一个藏族人。如果您对我的身份有怀疑请查询我的身份证号:51322219*****0473。

藏族的某些同胞如果你们看到这篇文章希望您对自己的行为做出检讨

追求自由那是多么的另人向往,追求属于自己的那片天空是多么的美好。可我想不通的是我们既然已经有了自由我们又何必再去追求?现在你们的行为,已经让我们的兄民弟族,我们的政府感到耻辱。你们说的对,你们需要自己的历史,需要自己的信仰来延续我们那崇高的格萨尔王的精神。我在家乡的时候在色达佛学院,从典籍中看到了让我们藏族甚至是我们整个华夏民族都为之骄傲的格萨尔王全传,格萨尔王是英雄,他们让我们过了好日子,但dl活佛能吗?我下面需要和你们说说我们的英雄和共产党谁做的更好。我不想说dl,他让我感到耻辱,他也不佩和共产党比。

色若,卓达,顿珠,你们几个都是经常来铁血的,你们几个的言论已经忘记了你的父母给你们的教导——受人之恩,报人之情。还记得耿登阿米(爷爷)给我们说的故事吗?

如果你忘记我可以提醒你一下。

藏族人感恩

阿米说刚刚解放的时候,我们藏族真正的解放了,我们不再受到农奴主的欺压,我们也不再是奴隶不再是他家的长工,政府给了我们牛羊,政府给了我们草场,连官寨也分给了我们。后来解放军修路的队伍来了。给我们修通了那通往拉萨的路,政府真的做到了。阿米说,在修路的时候苦呀!当兵自己炒炸药去炸那飞沙天险,就那天,当兵的为了我们的路死了17个,炸下来的石头把他们埋在了路下,当兵的给我们运盐巴,给我们运茶叶,却不要任何的回报,只说这是政府给我们的。老百姓们背起自家的青稞杆去喂汽车,说汽车辛苦了,给我们运来了这么多东西。后来他们把汽车也留了两辆在我们这里,人家可什么也没要。后来听说路已经修到了拉萨,我们真正的能坐汽车去拉萨了。

后来天旱草场草不好,牛羊没膘水,入冬后又下大雪了,牛羊冻死无数,我们绝望了就在这个时候,政府说成都的车队已经出发了,是给我们送物资来的我们开始不相信,没2天那浩浩荡荡的车队给我们送来了粮食,送来了棉被,送来了一切我们需要的东西。我们的父辈跪在草地上磕头,他们没感谢上天,没感谢dl,他们是在感谢政府,感谢共产党。感谢毛主席。

..............

我们藏族人感谢国家,感谢人民对我们的支持!

后来有了我们,江主席做了我们的领导人。他给我们做了太多事情。 告叛乱分子 这些我们这代人都是看到了的。 我想问你,色若你家的电灯是谁给你安上的?你家的锅盖(电视卫星接收器)是谁给你安上的?我们寨子的村医院是谁给我们修的?医生是哪里来的?我们寨子修通了公路是谁花的钱?我们的电话线是谁给我们拉来的?我们的弟弟妹妹上学学费是谁给的?有了天灾是谁又在救济我们?那年泥石流,淹了你米儿米儿的房子是谁给他盖的新房子?你有出息了,你留学了,你还记得四川大学的张教授吗?是他资助的你留学,可你在干什么?你对我们这个国家干了什么?你的家人,你的恩人会怎么看你?去年又修通了铁路

其实我们穷吗?你知道的,我们这里其实并不贫穷,只是dl到现在都还在剥削我们。

他的爪牙在寺庙里坐着,随便封了个活佛摸下百姓的脑袋,我们的乡亲就把买牛得来的钱成捆成捆的给了寺庙。共产党帮我们这么多,我们却连最起码的税收也没交。他们以为我们贫困,把税收都免了。我们把钱给了寺庙后还去向政府要救济粮,政府说了什么吗?只说了一句:我们尊重民族信仰。

你们被镇压了吗?谁杀害了你们?没有任何人这样做了。你们这样将得到全人类的唾弃。

告国际友人!

我知道,你们和我的兄弟是朋友,他们也推荐你们来铁血,以下是写给你们的!

我们在中国,我们的民族享受和其他民族一样的待遇或者比他们享受的更多。你们听说的西藏人被中国虐待,中国政府没人性镇压的暴乱,全西藏人民,及全藏族人都开始暴乱并要求独立。中国政府并没有建设和发展西藏都是假的,我给你们说说我的家乡发生了什么。不要再相信他们了!我说的话可能比他们更可信。

中国政府在改革开放以来一直建设西藏以下是国家对西藏问题落到实处的

1.西藏是最早取消赋税的地区之一

2.西藏人根本没所谓的不自由,我们被国家规划为自治区,我们藏族人自己治理自己的西藏,并享受国家给我们的帮助,中国政府一直倡导和谐,中国政府用国库资金补助大学生来支持并建设西藏,发展西藏的教育事业,发展西藏的轻工业等等。

3.中国政府为了建设西藏修建了世界海拔最高的青藏铁路,以拉动西藏的经济发展,中国政府在任何天灾都是用自己所有的力量来帮助西藏人民。

4.中国的其他民族并没有看不起藏族人民,他们把我们当作兄弟,我们在社会上享受中国公民一样的待遇,并没有所谓的歧视。

5.藏族人民从心里感谢共产党,感谢国家。并没有所谓的藏族人民都起义要求独立一说,我家乡70%均为藏族人,可只出了以上几个有政治野心的人,比例为4000/1,这些人在我们的家乡被成为流氓。你们都是文明的人,崇尚自由的人,我想你们不会去帮助一个连自己民族都唾弃的流氓,希望你们不要被蒙蔽了。

6.藏人并不贫困,藏人的人均收入高于中国大多数地区,在我的家乡平均每家有40头牛100只羊,每年买牛羊及牛毛,羊毛,药材等收入超过10万人民币。人均2万左右,只是家乡的人民崇尚宗教文化,并被dl分子利用百姓的宗教信仰以半强迫的发方式将其搜刮作为叛乱经费。中国政府却尊重民族信仰,并一直帮助藏族人。

7.藏族人在这次暴乱中没有被镇压,叛乱份子只是被武警,警察等以国际惯例将其收监,对袭警的叛乱份子,实行强制抓捕,我想在贵国也是这样吧,警察执行公务被打,我想也会强制执行吧?然而我们的人民警察却一忍再忍,直到被打死也没有对他们开枪,导致包括藏族人在内的中国人民,强烈要求政府以强制镇压这件事情。可政府到现在还对他们实行说服政策。

我相信我的兄弟不会否认以上几点,请让他们解释以上的事情。[未完,下贴接]
[ 本帖最后由 szhao 于 2008-4-12 17:40 编辑 ]
 楼主| 发表于 2008-4-12 17:30 | 显示全部楼层

续:

告dl

dl你做了什么?你把我们的买牛羊的钱拿走了,你现在在抢夺我们的幸福。

今年暴乱了!你dl说,我们需要自由,我们藏族人需要自由,所以我们需要独立。

dl我也就直呼你的名讳了,我相信你能看到,你的爪牙会让你知道我说了什么!我们先不说共产党到底对还是不对。我给你分析zd后的后果。

1.首先,zd后,西藏将面临经济上的灾难。 你也知道,西藏民众的主要经济来源是依靠,牛羊,药材,畜牧副产品。如果一旦独立,祖国将成为敌对国,断绝一切的经济来往,我们西藏和周边地区人口一共也就300W人,那么我们该依靠什么作为经济来源?我们的牛羊将不再可能买到成都,买到兰州。难道我们依靠印度?印度人本身就是个农业大国,依靠中国现在的实力是可以逼迫他和西藏断绝一切的来往(包括经济的军事)那西藏就是下一个蒙古,被两个大国围在里面,没出海口你就不要想得到你干爹美国的直接经济和军事帮助。这样西藏的主要收入将破灭,百姓将再次沦落为农奴(你倒是不关心百姓,你无所谓,你只关心你自己)

2.军事

西藏没重工业,不可能自己建造军工产品。没经济收入你拿什么去换取武器?美国也许会给你一些武器,但那只是杯水车薪,在解放军的坦克,飞机之下,你的爪牙难道靠一把步枪抗衡?没自己的军队你拿什么来独立?印度会帮你吗》你上次去印度,印度总理给你说的什么?他不支持你这个流亡政府,印度不愿意和中国为敌,那么你将何去何从?和西藏只有一墙之隔的巴基斯坦是中国的盟友,你想都不要想和他拉关系,其他几个国家全部是俄罗斯的盟国,你觉得俄罗斯会放弃中国和你站在一边吗?你在痴心妄想!

3.民众基础

你不要太看高自己的地位,你以为全藏族人都在你的领导之下?你错了,藏族人也是人,我们知道谁对我们好,谁在剥削我们。你会认为我们会和你站在一起?你这次的暴乱就充分说明了问题,整个拉萨不足千人,全藏区不足万人,我给你凑个整数,就算1万人,那也是300/1的人在你的领导之下,你再把你给那些人的几百块一天取消了,那我想最多剩余1000人那就是3000/1和你站在一起,根本不需要军队,我们藏族人一人一口唾沫都可以把你的爪牙全部淹死,你没人民基础还好意思说你是下个毛泽东,你这是在侮辱毛泽东。你以为百姓现在还有人在寺庙中给你钱,你就以为全藏族人都支持你?在信仰你?错了,那只是老一辈人在这样做,下次你封的活佛在骗钱的时候看看,有多少 年轻人在给你钱,可以说基本已经快绝迹了。

4.信仰

现在你的势力越来越弱,你自己没察觉到吗?还有多少年轻人在你相信你?还有多少人在信任你?你的所做所为我们都把他看成是在表演杂耍,你在当藏族人的猴子吗?我的活佛!你在世界上表演,人家给了你几块钱?你丢了我们 的人呀!你一丢人,我们还怎么信任你?我们不可能信任一个猴子,你知道吗?

告我的兄弟

色若,卓达,顿珠.....我告诉你们,你们的行为已经触犯了中国的法律,触犯了中国人的道德底线,上次政府已经原谅了你们。可我们不会原谅你,你要还那样,我在成都等你,不用其他人动手,我会弄死你的,你的父母给了我电话,说你们现在已经半年多没有和家里联系了,他们担心你们,我没告诉他们你们已经成了dl的走狗,我怕你的父母会杀了你。也许你们也能成为中国的栋梁,但你这样做,你会死的,你的兄弟不是懦弱的人,我理智,我能看清楚谁才真正配领导我们藏族人走向富强,让我华夏民族屹立在世界之巅。

你们已经换了电话,我没法联系你们,知道你们经常来铁血,希望你们看到后,去自首不要再为非作歹了。不要再那样了,家乡的乡亲不会原谅你们的,你们的父母也不会,你的好友也不会。你们已经把我们藏族人的脸丢光了,现在我在任何地方一看到,藏族人XXX,藏族人暴乱,等我就想哭,我想辩解,我们藏族人可也是华夏的民族,可谁愿意听我辩解?我唯一能做的就是给我所有的朋友说,我们藏族人不是你们想像的那样的人,我们不是叛乱分子,.......

兄弟,不要那样做了好吗?

龙泣留
[ 本帖最后由 szhao 于 2008-4-12 17:32 编辑 ]
发表于 2008-4-12 18:54 | 显示全部楼层
很感动,谢谢这位藏族小兄弟。
发表于 2008-4-13 00:08 | 显示全部楼层
我的藏族同胞,你的声音我们听到了。
每个华夏子孙都听到了~但愿他们能听到这震憾的声音!

强烈要求至顶!!!
发表于 2008-4-13 05:06 | 显示全部楼层
发给西方媒体,还有点道德的那种
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