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China Hit By Earthquake [原标题为 Children Killed In China Earthquake ---- 斑竹提示语]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2014670/posts

Drudge Report ^ | Updated:08:00, Monday May 12, 2008 | Sky News

Posted on 2008年5月12日 15:27:28 by Lijahsbubbe

An earthquake measuring 7.8 on the Richter scale has hit China's Sichuan province. The tremor was felt across the entire region - shaking buildings in the capital, Beijing, as well as the Thai capital, Bangkok, and Hanoi, the capital of Vietnam. US Geological Survey said the quake struck 57 miles north-west of the city of Chengdu at 2.29pm local time (6.28am GMT).  

Some 10 million people live in Chengdu.

TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: asia; china; chinaquake; earthquake; eq; quake; sichuan; usgs; wenchuan

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1 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:27:28 by Lijahsbubbe

2 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:28:01 by Lijahsbubbe

To: bd476; Ezekiel

ping

3 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:29:32 by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)

To: Lijahsbubbe

2 major natural disasters in a short time. Scary. Prayers to all.


4 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:29:37 by edmond246 (Who is John Galt?)

To: Lijahsbubbe

7.8 is quite high. However, I don’t know the region in China that it hit that well. But if there was shaking all way from Beijing to Hanoi... it’s gotta be a big one. Hope it struck somewhere where there’s not a lot of people . . . then again it is China.

5 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:30:03 by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)

To: peggybac

Oops, should be 2 natural disasters. Delete the “major.”

6 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:32:01 by taxesareforever (We'll never forget Matt Maupin and his service to our country.)

To: peggybac

How about “major natural disasters”.

7 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:33:21 by taxesareforever (We'll never forget Matt Maupin and his service to our country.)

To: Lijahsbubbe

Like the cyclone disaster, reports of injuries and deaths will be slow in coming out.

8 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:34:09 by edmond246 (Who is John Galt?)

To: edmond246

After taking a look at Chengdu, China, it does appear the epicenter was located near a mountain range in central China, not too close to any major population centers. We can hope for the best.

9 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:34:17 by Lijahsbubbe

To: peggybac



10 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:34:56 by The KG9 Kid

To: Lijahsbubbe

7.8 is nearing 'Great Quake' status on Richter. This one could be very bad indeed.

Iam_zhcn

11 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:36:13 by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")

To: Lijahsbubbe

With the southern section of the San Andreas fault being 150 years overdue for a bigone and the Hayward fault ready to slip, I would not want to be anywhere near California anytime soon.

12 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:36:28 by edmond246 (Who is John Galt?)

To: Lijahsbubbe

This page seems to be useful determining how close the epicenter was to population centers. It’s from the USGS.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/pager/events/us/2008ryan/index.html

13 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:36:38 by Lijahsbubbe

To: edmond246; peggybac

I don’t know much about earthquakes at all. But this sounded big.

Drudge is slow on the details. I checked Yahoo news, and didn’t find any new info.

14 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:38:43 by edmond246 (Who is John Galt?)

To: edmond246

And finally, my last bit of looking at the USGS site indicates around 21,000 people in the ‘extreme exposure zone’.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/pager/events/us/2008ryan/index.html#shakemap

15 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:39:06 by Lijahsbubbe

To: edmond246

Thanks.

16 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:42:20 by Lijahsbubbe

To: edmond246

The violent doesn’t sound too cool either. And that’s what, 86 thousand?

17 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:46:01 by edmond246 (Who is John Galt?)

To: Lijahsbubbe

That’s what it appears to be. However, I am currently attempting to find the same population map for other significant earthquakes. However, I cannot seem to find it. Using past maps, I was thinking we can get an estimate on how accurate these maps are in predicting damage, and so forth. Your welcome, by the way, the more information we have the better we can look at the whole picture. :-)

18 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:46:53 by Lijahsbubbe

To: taxesareforever

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080512/ap_on_re_as/china_earthquake

Update here. I guess we’ll have to wait and see how accurate it is.

19 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:47:28 by The KG9 Kid

To: edmond246

That particular region of China -- Sichuan Province -- hit by this quake is by far the most populated of all provinces in that nation.

This is an older population map of China, but you can see that the density of people in Chengdu is greater than anyplace else:  cHINA POPULATION AND DENSITY MAP  The buildings there are typically very old or of suspect construction if they're modern. It's not a particularly modernized province. The effects of this quake could be dreadful.

20 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:47:51 by edmond246 (Who is John Galt?)

To: edmond246

Also appears, there has been an aftershock. Mag. 6; same area.

Iam_zhcn

21 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:49:07 by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)

To: Quix

Earthquake in China, PING.

22 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:49:42 by Enchante (Obama: My 1930s Foreign Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Social Policy!)

To: edmond246

This report says the epicenter was in a rather remote area: Breaking News

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1315695,00.html

China Hit By Earthquake Updated:08:32, Monday May 12, 2008

An earthquake measuring 7.5 on the Richter scale has hit China’s Sichuan province.

The tremor was felt across the entire region - shaking buildings in the capital, Beijing, as well as the Thai capital, Bangkok, and Hanoi, the capital of Vietnam.

Quake hit near ChengduUS Geological Survey said the quake struck 57 miles north-west of the city of Chengdu at 2.29pm local time (6.28am GMT).

Some 10 million people live in Chengdu.

An eyewitness said people flooded out of buildings, but there was no sign of damage or injuries.

The area where the quake lies on the eastern edge of the Tibetan plateau, where mountains rise sharply and the population density is generally thin.

A magnitude 7.5 earthquake is considered a major event, capable of causing widespread damage and injuries in populated areas.

In the Taiwanese capital of Taipei, 100 miles off the southeastern Chinese, buildings swayed when the quake hit. There were no immediate reports of injuries or damage.

23 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:52:07 by Lijahsbubbe

To: The KG9 Kid

Thanks for the info. Check out the link on post 18 where they say the pop. is very thin and so far there are no reports of widespread injuries or damage.

24 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:52:30 by kms61

To: edmond246

Chengdu has a population of 11 million, per Wikipedia. I don’t know much about earthquakes, but this sounds like it could be bad...

25 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:53:39 by Doofer (Carl Cameron Is A Weasel)

To: edmond246

Also appears, there has been an aftershock. Mag. 6; same area.



26 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:56:39 by edmond246 (Who is John Galt?)

To: Doofer

Thanks.

Place-Saver for later...

I’m off for the night.

Prayers and God speed to those effected.

27 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:56:50 by HarryCaul

To: Enchante

Well, Chengdu is a major city, for sure. But it sounds like the city itself avoided the worst of it, so maybe it won’t be too bad in terms of damage.

28 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:56:54 by edmond246 (Who is John Galt?)

To: The KG9 Kid

Oh my. 100+ Million people in that province; if my sleep deprived eyes aren’t lying to me. I appreciate the research into the area. I hope to find out more when I wake up. Thanks.

29 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:57:19 by DB

To: Lijahsbubbe

Looking at the coordinates on Google Earth significant populations are less than 4 miles away.

There's going to be massive damage.  But for the Grace of God go I.

30 posted on 2008年5月12日 15:59:26 by HarryCaul

To：DB

My first thought was of the extremely rapid construction cities like Chengdu have seen in the last decade, and how they may not be up to “code”. Let us hope that doesn’t play out that way...

Iam_zhcn

31 posted on 2008年5月12日 16:02:10 by Lijahsbubbe

To：DB
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/05/12/china.quake/

This link tells of the damage near the epicenter due to the shallowness and also the population. Ditto what you said.

32 posted on 2008年5月12日 16:05:25 by HarryCaul

That CNN article has entirely the wrong population for the city. It’s over 10 million, not 2 million. Maybe someone heard it wrong.

33 posted on 2008年5月12日 16:07:18 by Lijahsbubbe

To: HarryCaul

Really. I have no idea. But thanks for your input. I’m sure you’re more accurate than CNN. NOT being sarcastic.

34 posted on 2008年5月12日 16:10:39 by Lijahsbubbe

To: HarryCaul

Sky news says over 10 million as well. I think it will be a little while before we find out the extent.

35 posted on 2008年5月12日 16:20:04 by Elle Bee

To: Lijahsbubbe

and of course China will lie about the extent of the damage and death

36 posted on 2008年5月12日 16:20:39 by gogov

To: edmond246

Been there and would not want to be there in a 7.8 quake. If there is signicant damage - and I can’t imagine how there would not be - it would not be the easiest place to leave.

37 posted on 2008年5月12日 16:22:15 by gogov

To: edmond246

Great link. Thanks.

38 posted on 2008年5月12日 16:29:20 by DB

To: Lijahsbubbe

It looks like I got something wrong with the coordinates (decimal conversion) and that the nearest significant population is about 15 miles away.

39 posted on 2008年5月12日 16:38:14 by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)

To: Lijahsbubbe

The only bright side I can see is that currently the whole country is mobilized for the Olympics. Perhaps it will be easier to route aid to the needy areas? One can hope.

40 posted on 2008年5月12日 17:02:46 by Uncle Ike (Sometimes I sets and thinks, and sometimes I jus' sets.........)

To:Caipirabob

CNBC now reporting “deaths and injuries and a school collapsed”....

Earlier ‘nothing to see here’ reports seem to have been somewhat optimistic.....

Iam_zhcn

41 posted on 2008年5月12日 17:03:53 by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)

To: Caipirabob

wonder if the great dam project held up.....any tusami effects on that huge lake?

42 posted on 2008年5月12日 17:41:40 by gogov

To: spokeshave

There was a post on FR a couple of weeks ago that talked about the damn and its ability to withstand a 6.x quake. Perhaps someone can find it. I looked but could not.

43 posted on 2008年5月12日 18:11:16 by Bikkuri

Here’s the last one I felt... I remember I was dreaming (it was about 1am)... and it woke me up fast... I remember going from dream scene and it flashed a bright white (my waking up point). I clung to my sheets (shaken side to side for about a minute or so)... I could hear my heartbeat... slow but heavy :/

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/eqinthenews/2008/us2008rtbu/#details

44 posted on 2008年5月12日 18:14:54 by Bikkuri

To: Bikkuri

Forgot to mention that I live on the 1st floor of a 3 story apartment complex X(

45 posted on 2008年5月12日 18:48:04 by Global2010 (Waiting for Hillary to pull the Rabbit outa the Hat)

To: Lijahsbubbe; bd476

Earth a quakin Ping please.

46 posted on 2008年5月12日 18:50:21 by Uncle Ike (Sometimes I sets and thinks, and sometimes I jus' sets.........)

To: Global2010

CNBC just reported - headline only - “900 students buried”

Comment #47 Removed by Moderator

48 posted on 2008年5月12日 18:58:10 by Global2010 (Waiting for Hillary to pull the Rabbit outa the Hat)

To: Uncle Ike

Pics just now coming into US tv News....does not look good.
(I had the sound down so did not hear the report)

49 posted on 2008年5月12日 19:00:46 by Heatseeker (To err is human, but to really screw up it takes the Berkeley City Council)

BBC saying the same thing. It’s early and news takes awhile to get out even in open societies; but I suspect this will be a case where the western media, rightly critical of Burma for soft-pedaling news of the cyclone disaster, will enthusiastically support China’s efforts (Olympics are less than 3 months away) to do the same thing.

50 posted on 2008年5月12日 19:03:06 by Global2010 (Waiting for Hillary to pull the Rabbit outa the Hat)

To: Lijahsbubbe

On my 48th Birthday the earth shook. /sarcasm.

Iam_zhcn

51 posted on 2008年5月12日 19:16:58 by yangsuli

To: Uncle Ike

I am a Chinese and according to my parents who are now in Chengdu, the center of the earthquake is rather a romote region.

There are no serious injuries and death in Chengdu.Some buildings did collapse but few ones got injuried. The situation is more serious in the countryside, where some houses are still builed by clay and wood.

The center of the earthquakr is in Wenchuan, a small town whose population is about 110,000, including the people live in the countryside nearby. However, the situation is not clear because the electronic communication has been destroyed. Let’s hope for the best.

52 posted on 2008年5月12日 19:22:18 by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)

To: yangsuli

Ni Hao Yang Su Li - New now has approximately 900 children buried in a school. Pics from CNN are showing the area.

53 posted on 2008年5月12日 19:26:12 by onedoug

To: Lijahsbubbe

Probably compressional, roughly NE/SW. Odd that it seems so shallow....

54 posted on 2008年5月12日 19:43:04 by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)

To: yangsuli

Welcome to FR yangsuli, and thank you for the first hand knowledge of that area.

55 posted on 2008年5月12日 19:48:14 by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30.)

To: yangsuli

You join us on a sad day for the people affected. And your post is exactly what makes this board so attractive.

Thanks for sharing what you KNOW about the situation. And, the voice of a Chinese will be very welcome in discussions related to America’s relations with your country.

56 posted on 2008年5月12日 19:57:29 by saganite

To: Lijahsbubbe

Children killed in quake? Amazing! Who would have thought children might get killed in a natural disaster. Whoever wrote this headline is comatose.

57 posted on 2008年5月12日 20:06:48 by esarlls3

Here are Mag 4.0+ quakes in the area. Still a lot of significant aftershocks: From: http://www.iris.edu/seismon/zoom/events/?lon=103.693&lat=31.2493

DATE	LAT	LON	MAG	DEPTH	REGION
12-MAY-2008 11:11:02	31.25	103.69	5.8	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
12-MAY-2008 10:23:40	30.99	103.41	5.1	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
12-MAY-2008 09:42:25	31.52	104.12	5.5	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
12-MAY-2008 09:23:34	32.14	104.89	4.9	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
12-MAY-2008 09:07:00	31.25	103.79	5.1	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
12-MAY-2008 08:47:25	32.22	105.12	5.0	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
12-MAY-2008 08:26:12	31.40	103.96	4.9	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
12-MAY-2008 08:21:40	31.54	104.08	5.2	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
12-MAY-2008 08:10:59	31.22	103.57	5.2	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
12-MAY-2008 07:34:42	31.28	103.80	5.4	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
12-MAY-2008 06:54:18	31.16	103.83	5.7	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
12-MAY-2008 06:43:14	31.25	103.68	6.0	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
12-MAY-2008 06:28:00	31.08	103.27	7.5	10.0	SICHUAN, CHINA
02-MAY-2008 15:56:28	27.54	101.93	4.7	35.0	SICHUAN, CHINA

World map page: http://www.iris.edu/seismon/

59 posted on 2008年5月12日 20:07:02 by yangsuli

To: saganite

The point is that middle school’s teaching building collapsed-—and probably because of the indifference of the quality of this building,since it seems that this is the only building collapsed in the nearby.

60 posted on 2008年5月12日 20:15:38 by esarlls3

To: esarlls3

Selected bits from: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3916648.ece

900 students 'buried' in China earthquake
Premier Wen Jiabao left Beijing and tried to reach the epicentre after the tremor rocked the region at 0628 GMT at a depth of 18 miles. The decision to send such a senior leader was the first hint that officials feared a high casualty toll in a region with a large Tibetan population that has seen anti-Chinese unrest in recent weeks.

Selected bits from: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/world/asia/13china.html?ref=world

900 Trapped After Quake, China State Media Reports

BEIJING — A powerful earthquake struck a mountainous region of western China on Monday, killing at least 107 people and trapping more than 900 students beneath a collapsed high school as tremors shook buildings for hundreds of miles, according to interviews and reports in China’s state media.

Early Monday evening, Xinhua also flashed an emergency report from Dujiangyan describing that nearly 900 students were feared trapped after a high school collapsed. Most of the telephones in the city were not functioning, and the Xinhua report could not be independently verified.  Efforts to reach people near the epicenter of the bigger quake in western China were hindered by the damaged telephone system. But receptionists at different hotels in Chengdu said the earthquake appeared not to have caused any major problems in the city. Xinhua showed photographs of minor flooding caused by damage to an underground water pipe, but, as yet, the city seemed largely undamaged.

Iam_zhcn

61 posted on 2008年5月12日 20:35:04 by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)

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62 posted on 2008年5月12日 20:41:05 by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)

To: saganite

Whoever wrote this headline is comatose. [引用]

They aren't comatose. They've got an agenda. Manipulation at its worse and stupidest.  

63 posted on 2008年5月12日 20:43:27 by keeper53 ("In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God..." -John 1:1)

To: yangsuli

Thank you for your account of this huge earthquake.

Please continue to post, if at all possible.

Prayers lifted for survivors buried under rubble...

Free Republic is THE place to keep up with current events all around the world.

keeper

64 posted on 2008年5月12日 20:51:19 by saganite

To: true2theirword

What, you’re telling me no adults died in that earthquake?

65 posted on 2008年5月12日 20:55:54 by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)

Odd title for a disaster story.

66 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:00:06 by newnhdad

To: All
Has AlGore come out and blamed it on Bush and global warming yet?

67 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:04:22 by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)

To: All
AP now reporting up to 5000 dead link

68 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:07:54 by Blogger

To: LukeL

Wouldn’t want to be too close to New Madrid either.

69 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:09:54 by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)

To: Lijahsbubbe

Epicenter a couple hundred miles from 3 Gorges Dam....glad to hear it (at least at this point) the dam wasn’t damaged.

70 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:14:57 by TomGuy

To: Lijahsbubbe

FoxNews just reported 3,000-5,000 dead — based on current Chinese reports.

That number could rise.

Iam_zhcn

71 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:19:01 by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)

To: Lijahsbubbe

From University Nevada Reno:




72 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:23:30 by yangsuli

To:Tainan

900 is not a credible number....

CNN and NY times both said that it's quoted from China's domestic meida, however I do see this number in any domestic media.

From what doemstic media reported, there are 1700 students in that school but how many got stucked is not clear yet

73 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:23:34 by CassieChan

To: Elle Bee

I’m a Chinese student. When I walked out of a supermarket in Beijing this afternoon I saw hundreds of workers ran out of high buildings, which shock me to go back to my campus to search for the news on TV and Internet about this earthquake. I mean seriously, your tone made me a little uncomfortable:( The media of China are focusing on this disaster and the premier has flew to Wenchuan, where 900 students were buried in ruins. We are praying for their safety. A lot of my classmates’ parents are in Sichuan, they felt worried because mobile phone communication is unavailable.

My hometown is Yichang, in which stands the Three Gorges Dam project, I called my father just now, he told me local schools won’t be open until being safe.And he said the dam is alright.( my house is 500 meters away from the dam)
P.S. thanks to all of you Americans for caring about this disaster:)

74 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:23:35 by yangsuli

To: keeper53

Thank you.

But I know little about this disaster either.

What I know is also from the media, the telephone system barely works, and I am still trying to get my family( I am now in Beijing).

According to Xinhua( China's State Media), the death in Beichuan( a county in Sichuan )may reach 3000-5000. I think the situation in Wenchuan would be even more sesious. However, the main road to Wenchuan has been blocked by debris flow.

A wall collapsed in my mother school and two students were killed in Mianyang. Several school's teaching building has also collapsed and more than ten students were killed, not to mention those 900 who are still trapped.

Let's just cross our hands.

75 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:23:38 by kirler

The subsequent damage by the major earthquake in sichuan china will be tremendous and out of most people can image. WengChuang county( the earthquake center)is located in the Ming river (the one of largest tributary of Yangzi river),the rock of the both bank of the Ming rive is loose, and the earthquake will cause large scale landslide ，and the river interdiction could be forescasted, even worse there are lot of dams in the Wengchuang county, God bless

76 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:28:34 by libs_kma (The land of the free, because of the brave)

To: RSmithOpt

I watched a Modern Marvels special on the 3 Gorges damn project a few months ago and I remember them saying that some engineers were concerned that the huge weight of all the water backed up by the damn may cause earthquakes in that area.

Hopefully this wasn't the start of those fears becoming reality.   

77 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:31:32 by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)

To: yangsuli

Yang Su Li -the numbers are rising. I hope your family is safe. I was watching CNN when that story was told. Also story is that the response teams are very good. Food, medicine and help is getting there. I hope the road gets opened up. Helicopters are also bring help to the area.

78 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:31:48 by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)

To: libs_kma

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2014749/posts

update

79 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:33:30 by bonfire

To: CassieChan

Prayers for your countrymen and your family, CassieChan.

80 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:43:03 by bd476

To: Lijahsbubbe; A message; AVNevis; Awestruck; Bennett46; bert; Beth; Betis70; bevlar; BIGLOOK; ...

Thanks for the ping, Lijahsbubbe.
Earthquake Ping List. If you would like to have your name
added to this list or removed from it, please FReepmail me.

Stay safe~

Iam_zhcn

81 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:45:21 by Heatseeker (I'll vote McCain for President if I can vote Cheney for God)

To: CassieChan

I was also one who believed the government in Beijing would under-report the magnitude of this story. Apparently I was wrong and for that I am sorry.
I am glad your father is OK but prayers for your classmates’ families in the affected area.

82 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:45:27 by firewalk

To: Lijahsbubbe

prayers

83 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:46:25 by bd476

To: Global2010

Thanks for the ping, Global2010.

84 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:47:41 by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)

To: Lijahsbubbe

After living in Southern California for almost 20 years, I’m happy to be out of there and away from earthquakes. It’s nice to go to bed at night and not have in the back of your mind that the big one could hit any minute. The 1994 Northridge quake was quite enough for me, thank you!

85 posted on 2008年5月12日 21:57:41 by Rushmore Rocks

To: bd476

Thanks for the ping. I’ve been following this for several hours. Prayers up for all involved.



86 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:03:22 by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30.)

To: All

Three new signs ups on the thread, two of whom purport to be posting from the PRC.

Hmmmm

87 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:11:56 by bd476

To: All
Summary
Estimated Population Exposed to Earthquake Shaking

Est. Modified Mercalli Intensity	Est. Population Exposure (k = x1000)	Perceived Shaking	Potential Structure Damage
			Resistant	Vulnerable
X	117k	Extreme	V. Heavy	V. Heavy
IX	92k	Violent	Heavy	V. Heavy
VIII	866k	Severe	Moderate/Heavy	Heavy
VII	4,781k	Very Strong	Moderate	Moderate/Heavy
VI	13,538k	Strong	Light	Moderate
V	43,966k*	Moderate	V. Light	Light
IV	2,875k*	Light	None	None
II-III	--*	Weak	None	None
I	--*	Not Felt	None	None

*Estimated exposure only includes population within the map area.


Population Exposure
Population per ˜1 square km from Landscan 2005



Selected City Exposure

MMI	City	Population
VII	Tianpeng	60k
VI	Linqiong	55k
VI	Chengdu	3950k
VI	Jiangyou	127k
VI	Mianyang	264k
VI	Deyang	152k
V	Tongchuan	58k
V	Neijiang	546k
V	Nanchong	7150k
V	Zigong	689k
V	Yibin	242k

Shaking Intensity
    MMI



Users should consider the preliminary nature of this information and check for updates as additional data becomes available. Population exposure estimates are NOT a direct estimate of earthquake damage; comparable shaking will result in significantly lower losses in regions with well built structures than in regions with vulnerable structures.  Map of MMI contours plotted over population per ˜1 square km (see gray scale bar on top of map). The regions of integer MMI values are separated by the thick contour lines and labeled with Roman numerals. The total population exposure to a given MMI value is obtained by summing the population between the thick contour lines. This total is shown in population exposure table.Exposure table



Map of shaking intensity. This map shows the estimated MMI as a continuous color scale. The ground shaking estimates can be obtained from http://earthquake.usgs.gov/shakemap/.

88 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:12:01 by Lijahsbubbe

To: Global2010

Happy Birthday!

Too bad these quakes can’t take care of the terrorists and dictators who cause such sorrow in our world.

89 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:14:20 by r9etb

To: don-o

Three new signs ups on the thread, two of whom purport to be posting from the PRC. Hmmmm [引用]



90 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:16:26 by Lijahsbubbe

To: Right Wing Assault

Odd title for a disaster story.  [引用]

This headline is different from the one I originally posted. More like it should read: "Update, children reported killed in collapsed school."

Iam_zhcn

91 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:19:28 by bd476

To: Lijahsbubbe; Rushmore Rocks

You're welcome and thanks to Lijahsbubbe for posting the information and keeping this updated. Prayers for all in this devastating quake.

92 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:23:18 by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)

To: r9etb

I smell it too....


93 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:34:56 by MARKUSPRIME

To: r9etb


Very odd indeed. Just keep an eye on them in the future just incase chicom propaganda becomes apparent. However I do wish no innocent people are killed by natural disasters. I do loath and despise the communist chinese party and will continue to bash them and destroy their misinformation whenever I can..


Comment #94 Removed by Moderator

95 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:37:50 by lzb86404

To: Lijahsbubbe

Thank you all. The death toll would be much highter. Many school buildings collapsed, it’ll nees a long time to take them out.

96 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:37:51 by lzb86404

To: ßuddaßudd

I’m waitting for more details..




97 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:39:27 by MARKUSPRIME

Look at the views of this thread. Something is strange methinks...

98 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:40:02 by bd476

To: Lijahsbubbe; Global2010; Rushmore Rocks; Cindy

Video taking during the earthquake inside student dorm. Turn the volume down a little before playing.

Youtube: Chinese students taking shelter under desks at time of earthquake

Added: May 12, 2008 (Less info)

Sichuan University student takes video at 2:29pm in dorm.

The 2008 Sichuan earthquake shook Wenchuan County, Sichuan province of the People's Republic of China at 14:28:04 local time (06:28:04 GMT). It had a magnitude of 7.8 Mw according to the State Seismological Bureau of China and United States Geological Survey. The earthquake was felt as far away as Beijing and Shanghai, where office buildings swayed with the impact and Vietnam capital Hanoi.The closest major city from the earthquake's epicenter is Chengdu.

The epicenter was at 31.084°N, 103.267°E, in Wenchuan County, Ngawa Prefecture, 90 km northwest of Chengdu, Sichuan, China, with its main tremor so far occurring at 14:28:04 local time (06:28:04 am GMT) on Monday 12 May 2008. Early reports of the earthquake's Richter scale magnitude ranged from 7.6 to 8.0. Five major aftershocks ranging in magnitude from 4.0 to 6.0 were recorded within two hours of the main tremor.

Office workers in Chengdu reported a "continuous shaking for about two or three minutes", with many people rushing outside.

Sky News report on You Tube

99 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:46:23 by Lijahsbubbe

To: Heatseeker

I was also one who believed the government in Beijing would under-report the magnitude of this story. Apparently I was wrong and for that I am sorry. [引用]

Don't be. There's no reason for anyone to trust the Chinese government.

100 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:52:59 by Global2010 (Waiting for Hillary to pull the Rabbit outa the Hat)

To: Lijahsbubbe

Yeah when I tuned in at 4am ish it was different.

Huh.

And the news just said 3000 dead from quake.

SO perhaps whom ever is updating YOUR thread title should update it again.

Iam_zhcn

101 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:56:35 by Lijahsbubbe

To: bd476

Thanks BD.

102 posted on 2008年5月12日 22:59:12 by Lijahsbubbe

To: Global2010

I thought that was kind of weird. Usually there will be an update in parentheses added to the title (as in “moderator, please update this thread”), but in this case the entire title was changed.

103 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:00:51 by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)

To: Lijahsbubbe

China’s state-run Xinhua news agency cited local disaster relief officials saying 3,000 to 5,000 people were estimated to have died in just one district of Sichuan, Beichuan County.

A further 10,000 people were injured in the county, where officials said 80 percent of buildings had collapsed.

two chemical plants collapsed

104 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:01:36 by lzb86404

To:bd476

the death toll has risen to 7651.. the number will be much higher hours later, cause the rescue team are still 100 miles away from the spot.  

105 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:08:57 by American Quilter (AIDS....drugs.......abortion......don't liberals just kill you?)

To: yangsuli

Welcome to FreeRepublic, yangsuli, and thank you for the information from your parents. I’m glad they’re all right.

106 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:13:04 by American Quilter (AIDS....drugs.......abortion......don't liberals just kill you?)

To: CassieChan

Welcome to FreeRepublic, CassieChan, and thanks for providing information you received firsthand. I hope everyone you know in the affected area is all right.

107 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:14:45 by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30.)

To: American Quilter

I hope the newbs who signed on today to post on this thread, are indeed who they say they are. I believe the count is up to three.

108 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:24:24 by Admin Moderator

To: Global2010

The headline was changed to reflect the headline at the link provided.

109 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:27:35 by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)

To: don-o

Two 5.1 shakers within the hour. The new ones are on a line moving to the northeast like a fault line is giving way along its length rather than sitting and rumbling in one spot.

110 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:33:06 by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)

To: RightWhale

Where does that put it in relation to Three Gorges Dam?

Iam_zhcn

111 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:35:02 by Truthsearcher

To: lzb86404

Current death count is now at 8533, and will continue to rise.

112 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:35:39 by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)

To: SE Mom

I have no idea where the dam is located relative to this event. 7.8 is not enough to seriously affect the dam anyway. It would take something near to 9.0 to bounce that significantly.

113 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:38:00 by meanie monster

bookmark

114 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:40:34 by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)

To: CassieChan

I’m a Chinese student. [引用]

You are a Chinese agent, sent to try to influence America's premier conservative website. We've been expecting you.

115 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:41:47 by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)

To: yangsuli

Let's just cross our hands. [引用]

Good luck on your disaster; however, we've been expecting infiltration by Chinese agents for some time. Good to see you finally arrived.

116 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:42:24 by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30.)

To: Lazamataz

Book ‘em, Laz!

117 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:46:58 by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)

To: don-o

Which one is the third Chinese agent? I cannot find him, and I want to welcome him properly! I will be following them, and any new agents of the PRC, to track and point out when they attempt to influence our forum.

118 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:47:49 by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)

To: CassieChan

The 7.3 earthquake in Alaska a couple years ago did little damage aside from moving the Alyeska Pipeline a few feet on its piers. It was felt in New Orleans, which is a couple thousand miles away.

No doubt the injuries in this earthquake are from heavy objects falling on people, which would include buildings that collapse. Anybody out in the open would get a ride for a few seconds and no damage.

119 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:50:18 by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)

To: RightWhale

SCTV 4 video link from Sichuan Province in China, http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/b3686.htm  I don't speak Chinese but they do seem to have earthquake coverage. Mostly interviews with people standing outside.  The coverage seems to be heavily censored. The only damage pictures always have swarms of unsoiled smiling Chinese paramilitary types standing around.


120 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:55:17 by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)

To: Milwaukee_Guy

Another 5.1 just now. These are not serious but probably make some people nervous for a few seconds.

Iam_zhcn

121 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:56:01 by saganite

To:true2theirword

I’ve raised 5 kids and have 11 grands so don’t preach to me about the importance of children. My comment was directed at the phony headline designed to elicit sympathy from airheads who think children are the only victims in a quake. Kinda like you I guess.

So you’re gonna bring a quake my way? Nice sentiment for one so attuned to the touchy feely manipulation of the MSM.

122 posted on 2008年5月12日 23:59:11 by Dog Gone

To: Milwaukee_Guy

State television broadcast tips for anyone trapped in the earthquake. 'If you’re buried, keep calm and conserve your energy. Seek water and food, and wait patiently for rescue,’ CCTV said. [引用]

link  This is a helpful tip for those Chinese who are buried but are still watching television and who can crawl to the refrigerator.  

123 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:05:10 by fatima (Pray.)

To: Truthsearcher

How sad.

124 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:10:12 by Lijahsbubbe

To: Lazamataz

Which one is the third [引用]

lzb86404 , post #104.

125 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:10:25 by HOYA97 (Hoya Saxa = What Rocks)

To: yangsuli

My wife is from China. I am suprised that you are able to post to this site from China.

126 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:13:16 by Strategerist

To: Lijahsbubbe

Just a FYI, this quake was as far from a New or Full moon as it is possible to get, for the “full moons cause earthquakes” crowd.

127 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:14:20 by yangsuli

To: Lazamataz

I don’t know what to say....
It is NOT MY disaster
It is everybody’s disaster!

128 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:18:17 by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)

To: Strategerist

This is actually in the spatial series drawing an equatorial great circle arc around the earth the past week, which would either mean the planet is about to split in half or a pole shift is beginning.


129 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:21:07 by Strategerist

To: RightWhale

which would either mean the planet is about to split in half or a pole shift is beginning [引用]

Or, far more likely, nothing happens.

130 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:22:16 by EvilOverlord (Socialism makes workers into slaves and couch potatoes into kings)

To: HOYA97

My wife is from China. I am suprised that you are able to post to this site from China. [引用]

I've been to China, and I have been able to read Free Republic. I've not tried posting from there, though. I was somewhat surprised that I could access the site, but it wasn't a problem.

Iam_zhcn

131 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:23:45 by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)

To: Strategerist

When did the Chilean volcano let go relative to moon phase? I don’t follow moon phase in the summer since it is light and the moon is too low to bother with.

132 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:24:33 by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)

To：Lijahsbubbe

Bush: US 'ready to help' China after quake

Prayers for all in harm's way.

133 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:24:59 by ZX12R

To: RightWhale

This is actually in the spatial series drawing an equatorial great circle arc around the earth the past week, which would either mean the planet is about to split in half or a pole shift is beginning. [引用]

Or the Large Hadron Collider has started operations, and there have been some quirks.

134 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:29:28 by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)

To: ZX12R

You are correct. Could be mere coincidence.

135 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:31:05 by BurbankKarl

To: HarryCaul

The news writers for most organizations now read Wikipedia, geocities, myspace for facts on news stories....it is scary.

136 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:32:49 by Eye On The Left

To: Lijahsbubbe; All



Looks like this earthquake may well have been triggered by the continual movement of the Indian plate into the Asian continent. The Himalaya Mts were, and are still being, formed from this slow motion collision which began around 50 million years ago.



Geology of the Himalayas (Origins and growth):
"In the Upper Cretaceous (84 Million yrs ago), the Indian plate began its very rapid northward drift at an average speed of 16 cm/year, covering a distance of about 6000 km [~3600 miles], until the collision of the northwestern part of the Indian passive margin with Eurasia in early Eocene time (48-52 Million yrs ago). Since that time and until today, the Indian continent continues its northwards movement at a slower but still surprisingly fast rate of ~5 cm/year..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_the_Himalaya

137 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:33:01 by Lijahsbubbe

To:mewzilla

I don’t think that our President should be using our money to help China.

JMO.

138 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:33:12 by nomorelurker (keep flogging them till morale improves)

To: ZX12R

Is quirks plural for quark?

139 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:34:27 by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)

To: yangsuli

I don’t know what to say.... [引用]

Just tell me your agent identification number, and your commanding officer's name, and we're cool.  

It is NOT MY disaster It is everybody’s disaster! [引用]

Agreed. Of course -- and let your superiors know -- if your country tries to take Taiwan, the bigger disaster will be the nuclear exchange that will shortly follow. Just lettin' you guys know.

140 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:36:37 by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)

To: Lijahsbubbe

FWIW, I’ll be pleasantly surprised if the Chinese government takes us up on our offer.

Iam_zhcn

141 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:37:10 by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)

To: HOYA97

My wife is from China. I am suprised that you are able to post to this site from China. [引用]

Right. That's why it is very obvious it is an official contact from PRC government agents.

142 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:38:13 by NinoFan

To: yangsuli

Thoughts and prayers for your family and all those hurt by the earthquake.

143 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:40:03 by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)

To: lzb86404

the death toll has risen to 7651.. the number will be much higher hours later, cause the rescue team are still 100 miles away from the spot. [引用]

Welcome to Free Republic. May I inquire as to your Intelligence Agent ID Number, and your commanding officer? We've been expecting you. Glad to see you have finally arrived. Good luck in this disaster.

144 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:40:07 by Lijahsbubbe

To: yangsuli

It is NOT MY disaster It is everybody’s disaster! [引用]

I don't agree. It is China's disaster, but humanitarian countries will come to China's aid. Does China consider US disasters theirs as well?

145 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:41:18 by Lijahsbubbe

To: mewzilla

Good point. They probably won’t want anyone to see what goes on.

146 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:41:53 by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)

To: mewzilla

FWIW, I’ll be pleasantly surprised if the Chinese government takes us up on our offer. [引用]

Well, with three active PRC Intelligence Agents on this thread alone, it is likely that they will know our offer of assistence is sincere.

147 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:44:49 by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)

To: Lijahsbubbe

I’m already curious about some of the reporting I’ve been seeing, if any of the reporters have minders and/or have to clear their reports with the Chinese government before airing.

148 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:45:35 by NinoFan

To: CassieChan

Thoughts and prayers for all hurt by this eartquake, CassieChan. :)

149 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:45:48 by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)

To：Lazamataz

It is obviously an official contact. This follows a call on the Red Phone from pres Bush directly to the Premier of the PRC earlier this morning offering any aid they wanted and they said they would like to register three agents on FR. So, it is done.

150 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:46:54 by yangsuli

It seems that you would accuse me as an agent no matter what I said, but I am gonna say this once: I am a student in Peking Univ, China. I am no agent of any office.

I personally do not agree with taking Taiwan. From my observation, Chinese government would be satisfied with keeping a not bad relationship with Taiwan in recent years instead of taking it, considering that Ma is now the president of Taiwan.As for nuclear exchange——do you think Chinese are crazy and stupid?

Iam_zhcn

151 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:47:00 by Eye On The Left

To: Eye On The Left; All

Correction: Make that about *10* million years ago. I wrote 50.

152 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:47:10 by NinoFan

To: RightWhale

LOL!

153 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:48:01 by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)

To: mewzilla

I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt for 24 hours- only because of the millions of people who live in that region and that power, cell towers etc are knocked offline.

Even so- it’s unlikely they’re telling us all they know ...

154 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:50:23 by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)

To: yangsuli; Lazamataz

Don’t mind Laz. He is trying to keep our spirits up in his own way.

155 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:50:32 by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)

To: RightWhale

Ha! LOL!!

156 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:50:51 by NinoFan

To: lzb86404

Thoughts and prayers for those hurt by the quake.

157 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:51:50 by dfwgator (Go Stars!)

To: CassieChan

At least today it’s easier to get news out of China than back in 1976 after the Tangshan earthquake, it was probably months before anyone outside of the region had any idea of the severity of that quake.

158 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:51:56 by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)

To: yangsuli

It seems that you would accuse me as an agent no matter what I said, but I am gonna say this once: I am a student in Peking Univ, China. I am no agent of any office. [引用]

Disproven, by what you wrote below:  

I personally do not agree with taking Taiwan. [引用]

The fact you can post this proves you have unrestricted and unmonitored internet access -- not available to citizens in China. The ability to express such a sentiment is available only to government-approved agents. Look, I ain't mad at ya. I know everyone's gotta have a job. This is probably just a job to you.  

From my observation, Chinese government would be satisfied with keeping a not bad relationship with Taiwan in recent years instead of taking it, considering that Ma is now the president of Taiwan. [引用]

I will consider that the official government position of the PRC, and send this information to my commanding officer. Ain't it grand when intelligence agencies work together? LOL

159 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:53:55 by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)

To: SE Mom

FWIW, on a related note.... Chinese Internet censorship: An inside look

Comment #160 Removed by Moderator

Iam_zhcn

161 posted on 2008年5月13日 0:59:33 by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)

To: mewzilla

FWIW, I’ll be pleasantly surprised if the Chinese government takes us up on our offer. [引用]

They've done it before. For me, the big suprise would be if the U.S. didn't offer assistance.

162 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:07:56 by Dianna

To：Lijahsbubbe

I don’t think that our President should be using our money to help China. [引用]

With absolutely no statistics or history to back me up, I must say I'd rather spend millions now, to help innocents than millions later on weapons. Helping others when you can is right. It may also be good politics.

163 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:10:11 by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)

To: uglybiker

They've done it before. [引用]

1998 was the only time that springs to my mind at the moment. And I've always wondered just what Bubba sent over.

164 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:16:36 by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)

To: mewzilla

Amazing, isn’t it?

From your link:

~snip~

Are average Chinese Internet users afraid of the government’s Internet control system?

No. To begin with, not that many of them are even aware of it. The government discourages upfront discussion of the Great Firewall’s existence, what sites or search terms are forbidden, etc. Moreover, to the extent people are aware of it, indications are that they are hardly up in arms. My wife, Deborah Fallows, represents the Pew Internet project in China. In March of this year she released a study showing that a strong majority of Chinese Internet users welcomed the idea of controls over Web content and thought it was only natural that the government would do the controlling. This is a startling concept to many Westerners, but she explains the logic of it here.

~snip


165 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:17:36 by EagleandLiberty (El Rushbo Tribal name -- RinoHunter Vote Conservatives '08)

To：Lijahsbubbe

Don't be. There's no reason for anyone to trust the Chinese government. [引用]

I don't trust them if they said the sky is blue!! I don't trust these new FR members on here either. They are in China and they happen to join an American Political site. Nope, Sorry, I don't buy it!

166 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:21:15 by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)

To: EagleandLiberty

You are correct. Our agency has traced the internet connections of these three 'not government agents, no no no' back to the known IP of a special Intelligence Unit in the PRC.

We will assign a team, of course.

167 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:22:01 by yangsuli

To：Lazamataz

I see you know little about China's internet restriction..... Please, find anyone who knows Chinese and is not an agent by your judgement, then google "Taiwan" in Chinese( which would be 台湾). You will see how many Chinese have expressed their opinions, though most of which are stupid, I think. And I don't have unrestricted internet access. To think I am unmonitored just because I can post "Taiwan"? So naive....

168 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:24:11 by EagleandLiberty (El Rushbo Tribal name -- RinoHunter Vote Conservatives '08)

To：Lazamataz

You are a Chinese agent, sent to try to influence America's premier conservative website. We've been expecting you. [引用]

I thoughts exactly -- how did they happened to find a BANNED site like FR TODAY!

Comment #169 Removed by Moderator


170 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:25:21 by tatsinfla

To：Dianna

spoken like a true liberal....

Iam_zhcn

171 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:26:21 by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)

To: EagleandLiberty

Don't worry. Our American team is mobilized. [引用]

Heck, tax dollars are spent for our agency to exist. About time you got your money's worth.

172 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:30:48 by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)

To: Joya

Thanks much.

Appreciate the ping.

Tragic earthquake.

173 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:30:48 by dlzping

To：Lijahsbubbe

Maybe I am the third Chinese replied in this thread. (just knew Freerepublic by a link and registered this ID minutes before). Thanks you all of your blessing, really appreciating!

My parents also lives in Sichuan currently, the North-East of that province while I am in Dalian city now. They told me everything was ok so far.

Disastrously, the death toll has risen to 8533.

174 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:31:55 by EagleandLiberty (El Rushbo Tribal name -- RinoHunter Vote Conservatives '08)

To: HOYA97
My wife is from China. I am suprised that you are able to post to this site from China. [引用]

Only if you are a CHINESE AGENT!!!

175 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:32:39 by Admin Moderator

To: All

To whom it may concern, unless one of our newcomers gets political, let's drop the "Chinese agent" thing.

Prayers for the victims of this disaster.


176 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:34:21 by EagleandLiberty (El Rushbo Tribal name -- RinoHunter Vote Conservatives '08)

To: mewzilla

Bush: US ‘ready to help’ China after quake [引用]

Hmm... Does that mean we’ll be EXPORTING CHINESE MADE GOODS to China???

177 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:40:21 by stlnative

No news from county at epicenter of China quake—Xinhua

BEIJING — There has been no news from the county in southwest China at the epicenter of a deadly earthquake, more than nine hours after the disaster struck on Monday, state press reported.

All lines of communication had been cut with Wenchuan county, which has a population of 112,000 people, Xinhua reported, adding rescue teams had been unable to reach there because the roads had been destroyed.

~SNIP~

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20080513-136140/No-news-from-county-at-epicenter-of-China-quake—Xinhua

178 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:41:15 by EagleandLiberty (El Rushbo Tribal name -- RinoHunter Vote Conservatives '08)

To:yangsuli

I believe that since most sites are ‘BANNED’ in the PRC, we can’t believe you. What I’d like to say is that I wish the PRC would become a democray - of course, I’d like the US to become it, too.

179 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:43:43 by dlzping

To：Lazamataz

sir, do you really believe this site is restricted and can not accessed from China freely?

(the ‘agent’ used here might be a prejudice, you can ask your friends in China have a access test)

180 posted on 2008年5月13日 1:43:46 by FreeSwim

To: Global2010

I don’t think most people in china especially young guy s like controls over Web content.

The problem is that you have to accept it if you live there. [引用]

Sad but true.