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[已被认领] 【基督教科学箴言报】For China, a reverse brain drain in science?(讨论中国人才流失)

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发表于 2009-5-2 14:33 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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For China, a reverse brain drain in science?

By Peter N. Spotts   May 1, 2009 edition

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Beijing woos some of its best expatriate scientists. US should act, some say.

China has hung a “Help Wanted” sign for scientists and engineers, dangling big-bucks salaries and sparkling new labs to lure expatriates back from the United States.

Not long ago, the government aimed such efforts at snagging freshly minted PhDs or entry-level teachers and researchers at US universities. Now they’re going after full professors – folks with a research track record and a proven ability to run a lab. And they’re offering relocation allowances of $146,000 plus salaries reportedly as high as $250,000 a year to do it.

China’s effort is the latest wrinkle in what some experts see as a decade-long loss for the US of foreign nationals – mainly from Asia – who are taking their strong, US-honed science and technology skills and heading home.

The concern: At a time when science and technology are becoming ever more fundamental to economic progress, the US is losing many of its best and brightest. “The US government is asleep at the wheel here,” says Vivek Wadhwa, an adjunct professor at Duke University’s Pratt School of Engineering and a senior research associate at Harvard Law School.

And it’s not clear the US is able to fill the vacuum – at least for now – as these people leave. American students seem to prefer careers in business, law, or medicine rather than in science, math, or engineering.

Reliable statistics on the number of experienced foreign scientists and engineers going back home are scant. But a look at changes in the proportion of foreign students staying back in the US after earning their PhDs is revealing. The percentage of those who were still in the US two years after receiving their doctorates slipped from 71 percent between 2001 and 2003 to 66 percent in 2005, according to a study by Michael Finn at the Oak Ridge Institute for Science and Education in Oak Ridge, Tenn. The larger trends indicate that, “[W]hile foreign doctorate recipients stayed in increasing numbers during the 1980s and 1990s, this no longer seems to be the case,” Mr. Finn noted.

Data on more-experienced scientists and engineers remain anecdotal. A physicist at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory says that some of his physicist friends are moving back, including a senior professor at a major US university who’d been in the US some 20 years. In the short term, if China can draw 1,000 ethnic Chinese professors from the US, “that’s a big number,” notes the physicist, who says he’s received calls from the Chinese government and asked not to be named.

Several factors are driving the purported exodus – not least of which are prospects back home. India and China have posted electrifying economic growth rates in the past decade. Growth has slowed with the current global economic crisis, but still remains at enviable levels.

Established professionals returning home are drawn by what they see as better career opportunities, a better quality of life, and the chance  of being closer to family, according to a recently published survey by Mr. Wadhwa and his colleagues from Harvard and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

One significant draw is the prospect of bringing up children in what are seen as better school systems back home, says David Heenan, a visiting professor at Georgetown University. Many parents “see a dumbing down of public education in the US, along with tattoos and pants below the hips,” he says.

When they leave, they often take their kids with them – kids who are brighter than their parents, Mr. Heenan says. He notes that over the past 10 years, 60 to 65 percent of the top high school science research awards – what he dubs “junior Nobel prizes” – were children of first-generation immigrants or foreigners carrying H-1B worker visas.

The impulse to return home is to be expected as economies overseas evolve. But some experts say they are concerned that with its current visa policies, the US is hurting itself. One key need, Wadhwa says, is to boost the number of H-1B visas made available and cut processing times.

For all the angst, the Oak Ridge Institute’s Finn points out that as long as the sheer number of foreign students earning advanced degrees here continues to increase at a brisk pace, the US can still benefit from their intellectual horsepower.

And the US is still top of the heap in scientific clout, says James Hosek, who tracks global science and engineering trends at the RAND Corporation in Santa Monica, Calif. US scientists still publish twice as many of the most influential research papers as their European counterparts, and four times as many as a group of countries he calls the Asian 10, which includes China and India.

“So, they’re not breathing down our necks,” he says.

But even he cautions that with science investment accelerating overseas, the US cannot take its leadership for granted.

Vaishnavi Chandrashekhar contributed to this report.   

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-2 14:36 | 显示全部楼层
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1. Peter Park | 05.01.09
I see and agree with many assertions in the article as an immigration attorney in Newport Beach, California. H-1B visa processing needs to be more efficient and the quota needs to be increased dramatically if these highly educated foreign scientists and engineers are to remain in U.S. after their advanced degrees are conferred. Furthermore, their immigration process must be streamlined so that they could get permanent residence status promptly (not wait many years in limbo) so as to offer them continuity and security in U.S… When their children are “Americanized” many of them prefer to remain in U.S. Implementation of streamlined efficient immigration processes must be number one priority to attract these needed scientists and engineers whose technologies are truly the engine of economic growth. By comparison, I wonder at times whether attorneys, Wall Street bankers, and businessmen create any meaningful intrinsic value for humanity, and I am an attorney.

2. senra | 05.01.09
Consdering the below par social and professional recognition given to scientists in US this is not a surprise. Salary and status wise physicians, lawyers, bankers, accountants, executives (both public and private sector)are several fold above and naturally as stated in the article no sane US student want to get in to these diffucult study areas. Even at work place these scientists are under the mercy of managers with MBAs who treat them as expendable “need based” employees meaning as soon as the technical needs are over they are kicked out. This situation has also resulted in many scientists earning a MBA and becoming managers

3. jeremy | 05.01.09
from what i’ve seen is the opposite. 99% of the news reported in the last 5 years is leaning towards… china having a brain drain… and most of asia since many students come to america and do not want to leave.
out of the 100 chinese master students i’ve known, maybe 25% or less leave… the rest file for citizenship.
we should welcome foreign master students with open arms since we invested in them, but also since it helps us be more competitive.

4. John | 05.01.09
It’s about time to invest in Science and technology. Indeed we should not take our leadership in science for granted. We need to work hard and keep these highly educated people here.

5. Jeff | 05.01.09
As a mechanical engineer for some decades, this article to me is the usual claptrap about how the terrifying shortage of engineers is threatening the survival of the Republic, and therefore we need to import more technical professionals to work at the mercy of their H-1B sponsors for maybe half the wage of their American counterparts. Regarding the previous comments, 1)It is completely logical that an immigration attorney would want immigration increased, and 2)EVERYBODY is a need-based employee. I think just a few MBA’s, finance degrees nad managers have found themselves out on the curb this year. We need a reality check about H1-B visas. If you observe that engineers aren’t paid well enough, well thank you, but also note that H-1B visas (and the other “replacement vehicles” such N-1 visas, etc) do not raise wages. They drive them down. The H1-B is sponsored by a particular employer, who can extort the worker with miserable working conditions and pay by threatening to send them back to their impoverished homeland. It has been the experience of many, particularly in IT (thank god I didn’t go into that field) to end up with their jobs outsourced, or training their H1-B replacement as a condition of receiving their last paycheck. It happens still. The legal requirement is that the employers must prove that they cannot find American workers for the job. It is an empty and unenforced requirement that merely requires sending the feds a letter that you can’t find
Americans that you like. The other reality is that H1-B generally don’t go to the brilliant Nobel laureates; they typically go to low-to-mid level techies who can be taught to do a repetitive technical job and replace the more expensive Americans. It saves companies money. That is why Microsoft, Intel and others spend millions lobbying Congress to constantly expand the limits of immigration. Mass immigration is a self-perpetuating industry in this country, and it is not helping American workers.

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-6 14:37 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 I'm_zhcn 于 2009-6-6 22:11 编辑

认领,不过这几篇应该会比较晚交上来

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