英报对“中国劫持气候大会谈判”的后续报道：“中国毁了协议谈判”

涣沁

果然有黑的地方就有枪！美国减排百分之十七就很伟大了，中国减一半反而错了？

Valery

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All sounds very credible and interesting read. Put yourself in China's shoes - the West has produced 90% of all the carbon perhaps since Industrial Revolution? Now when China is
全文听起来非常可信，有趣。但我们可以站在中国的角度想想。应该是从工业革命开始吧，西方国家煤炭产业占全世界的百分之90。现在，当中国变得越来越富有的时候，却突然被告知要停止煤炭产业。不仅如此，他们
becoming rich, suddenly carbon production is out. Not only that - the reason they are producing so much carbon is because we shipped out our manufacturing out there because their labour costs are so cheap.
生产大量的煤炭的原因是因为我们运出大量我们产品到他们国家，而且他们的劳动力十分廉价。
You can see their point.
你可以了解他们的观点。
Personally I have never had much faith in politicians delivering any treaties around this, and they havent let me down so far.
就我个人而言，我对那些对此事件抛出一些协议的政客并不怎么信任，但他们至今还没有让我是失望。

I suggest taking your own grass roots actions and at least able to look yourself in the mirror in the morning. After all we all create the demand for chinese goods, and flights and SUVs and meat etc.
我建议各自采取一些实际的行动，至少能够自省一下。毕竟我们所有人需要中国商品,例如，飞机啊，多用途跑车啊，肉等。

cofy

西方的所谓排放标准就是只许州官放为为，不许百姓点灯。

如果汽车是符合排放标准的，那就可以满地开，到处玩。

但是，农村的老百姓生煤炉烧菜烧饭是不行的，因为这不符合排放标准。

其实，取公正的排放标准是人均排量，在这点是，欧美提都不愿提。