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BBC又在强奸民意?

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发表于 2009-12-31 00:10 | 显示全部楼层
就算这种评论再多,英国媒体还是会照样大喊“没人性”“炮舰外交”了~

各说各的~
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发表于 2009-12-31 00:17 | 显示全部楼层
Added: Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 12:55 GMT 12:55 UK
If China tried to intervene in the trial or sentencing of a Chinese citizen accused of a serious crime in the UK, we would not like it.
如果中国想干涉一个中国公民在英国被起诉犯罪的案件,我们不会高兴。

There has been no real suggestion that he wasn't guilty, only that he was mentally ill. The Chinese wouldn't execute a foreigner if they didn't think it was absolutely justified.
没有人认真的提出他是无罪的,只是说他有精神病。如果不是绝对肯定,中国是不会对一个外国人执行死刑的。

I'm against the death penalty, but not uduly upset about this sentence. He knew what he was doing, and has paid the price. The general reaction in the UK isn't very sympathetic.
我反对死刑,但不会对此事表现出不适当的烦乱。他知道他在做什么,并且付出了代价。在英国,总的反响是大家对他不太同情。

Apple Eater, England(英格兰)

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发表于 2009-12-31 00:18 | 显示全部楼层
布朗应该学会教育英国国民到其他国家去的时候遵守当地的法律;可能布朗自己也应该请一个老师教一教如何遵守别国的法律,免得到别国访问的时候夹带毒品而被判处死刑。
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发表于 2009-12-31 00:28 | 显示全部楼层
英、法政客们并不在意这个英国毒贩的生死。也许,他们倒是很乐见这个MSL毒贩死在他人之手。

政客们如此兴奋,只是在他们的选民面前的一场 show而以,同时还可以恶心一下中国,一举多德。

看呐~~我是如此关心和爱护我的人民,人民的人权,哪怕他带了8公斤毒品去别的国家!

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再一次证明:西方政客嘴里的人权,并不包括中国人。
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发表于 2009-12-31 00:30 | 显示全部楼层
Added: Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 12:54 GMT 12:54 UK
If more conutrys were like china and that there would be less crime... look at Ireland here and the UK some kills someone and they get 6 years or so for it, meaby 4 for good behaviour????
如果有更多的国家像中国那样,将会有更少的犯罪。看看我们爱尔兰这里,还有英国,杀人只判6年入狱,或者因为行为好而只判4年???(译注:在英国杀人通常被判十几年,但那只是名义上的,几乎不会关那么长,实际年限和名义年限没有太大关系,通常6年就可以出狱,如果表现好的话4年就可以出狱)

he was caught with drugs and the court wasnt issued with any evidence he had a mental disorder..... (which he probably didnt)...
他带毒品被抓,而没有给法庭提供任何精神病的证据(也许他本来就没有)

he took a risk, got caught, and since he carried drugs for young people etc all i can say is i wish more countries had laws like yours
他冒了险,被抓住了,因为他带着给年轻人的毒品等等,我能说的就是我希望有更多的国家有你们(译注:指中国)那样的法律。

Rougher Justice needed, Ireland (爱尔兰)
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发表于 2009-12-31 00:42 | 显示全部楼层
杀!!!!!!!!!
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发表于 2009-12-31 00:52 | 显示全部楼层

Added: Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 12:54 GMT 12:54 UK

The key phrase is "A British man, THOUGHT to be mentally ill".
His family never actual had a official diagnoses, may be because the stigma attached. In hind sight they should sought and got a official diagnosis, rather than leaving it has a procedural defence against the death penalety in foriegn country. Many foriegners caugth smulggling drugs, say they have been tricked :-) . This is a wearsome defence in a foriegn country. This man traveled the world how mentally ill was he?

关键词是“一个英国人,据认为有精神问题”

他的家庭从来都没有正式的诊断,也许是因为害怕耻辱。事后来看,他们应该事先搞到正式的诊断书,而不是事后在国外拿来作为应对死刑的程式化辩护理由。

许多在国外被抓的毒品走私者都声称自己被骗了。在外国这是一个乏味的辩护词。(译注:近年来有多例在国外走私毒品被抓的英国人以被骗为理由被英国政府搞回国逃脱外国法律惩罚的事件,所以这次碰上中国政府拒不屈服的态度,英政府觉得十分没有面子,恼羞成怒)

此人在全世界都旅行过了,他能有多精神错乱?

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发表于 2009-12-31 01:05 | 显示全部楼层
Added: Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 16:03 GMT 16:03 UK
No one makes this much of a ruckus when a Brit is executed in the United States? Whats the difference? The USA shoots down drug traffickers (suspected) with no trial whatsoever. No one would have batted an eyelid if this chap had been given the lethal injection in the states
如果一个英国人在美国被处死刑,没有人会如此喧闹。区别在哪儿?
美国不经审判就射杀毒品走私嫌疑者。如果这个家伙在美国被注射处死,没有人会动动眼皮。

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发表于 2009-12-31 01:16 | 显示全部楼层
感谢几位的翻译,海外见闻区版主请按规则加分:handshake:
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发表于 2009-12-31 01:32 | 显示全部楼层
Added: Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 16:00 GMT 16:00 UK
The British Government once again showed its inconsistency and hypocrisy over this matter. Not many days ago the Home Secretary refused to prevent Gary McKinnon, who suffers from Aspergers Syndrome, from being extradited to the United States for a crime that had no wrongful or injurious intent. Yet Mr McKinnon might die early through being unable to withstand the treatment he is likely to get if convicted in the US courts.
He deserves much more support than a drug smuggler in China.
在这个事情上,英国政府再一次表现出它的矛盾和伪善。前不久内政大臣刚刚拒绝采取措施阻止美国因为一件没有恶意的犯罪而引渡格雷。格雷患有Aspergers 综合症,并且可能因为受不了因美国法庭判刑而遭受的待遇而早死。他才应该得到比在中国的贩毒者更多的支持。
(译注:格雷是英国的一名黑客,美国称他黑了重要的网站,试图引渡他到美国受审。他非常害怕美国的监狱,吓得要死。他家人以他精神错乱为由要求英国政府阻止引渡。但政府拒绝了这一要求)


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发表于 2009-12-31 01:57 | 显示全部楼层
Every time when a Brit breaks law abroad and gets prosecuted, he/she is treated like a hero no matter what he/she has done. If this is what human right means, I would rather not to have one.
每次当一个英国人在国外犯法被起诉,他都会被当成一个英雄,不管他做了什么。如果这就是人权的含义,我宁愿不要这种人权。

[Wd0819], Brighton 英国
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发表于 2009-12-31 01:59 | 显示全部楼层
标题:英伦妓女弱肩担道义,中国政府行暴必自毙

  
专栏作家:乔治-皮切,宗教新闻传播人士
  
  Prostitute boycotts Chinese on ethical grounds
  
  One of the more touching messages I receive in the run-up to the outrageou
execution of Akmal Shaikh in China this morning is from a London-based “
working girl”, who tells me she is boycotting all Chinese clients for a year
in protest.
  
  
  翻译:
  
  中国处死阿毛,我怒了。 
  
  而今得知这名小姐发誓抵制中国客一年,我感动了!
  
  Please, spare me any sanctimonious injunctions about her chosen way oflife.

She’s doing what she can. And how many business people have decided
today to withdraw their services from the Chinese? I think, in this context at
least, she is acting with great dignity and self-respect.
  
  翻译:
  
  而多少绅士却不如一名妓女有如此高度的良知!苍天啊,大地啊!
  
  
  她来信写道:
  
  Dear Father Pitcher,you will find the following consequences serious, but I
know some people who will..
  
  I read your article on Akmal Shaikh with interest. It says the Chinese will
face serious consequences if the execution goes ahead.
  
   
  皮切兄在上,
  
  前作已拜读,我实不知所有中国人是否会受到惩罚,但是某些人必会。
  That site is probably not worksafe if anyone is monitoring your internet
usage, but it is my advert on [she includes an escort directory]. I am an
escort. I’m boycotting Chinese passport holders for a year if the execution
goes ahead. I can pick and choose my clients and I don’t need any from
murderous regimes.
  
  
  我意已决:如阿毛死,必将抵制中国护照之持有者,为期一年。
  
  选择嫖客乃本小姐之自由,
  
  而来自谋杀国度之人,岂有嫖本小姐之资格!
  
  
  I’m in two minds about those from Hong Kong, but will allow Taiwanese.
  
  对于港人,在考虑之中。而台湾人,或与之资格。
  
  
  Incidentally, if you are the holder of a Chinese passport you had better
get your booking in tonight. After Akmal Shaikh, the mentally ill man, is
executed tomorrow – you are on short rations for a year! In fact, no rations
at all. Diu lai no mo hai, far as I’m concerned.
  
  
  而汝等中国护照之持有者,今日尚可,而今日之后必将再无可能!
  
  最后,操你老妈个B!
  
  (该小姐会广东话:Diu lai no mo hai:吊你老母hai)
  
  
  
  
  代表性回复:
  
  Ha Ha Ha – as I said the chinese are laughing at you! I wouldn’t be
surprised if you’ve been set up with a big joke here – and you’re stupid
enough to fall for it!
 
  Oh all right, “lo mo” is “mother” and “diu” is the F-word. I really
don’t think I should be discussing such things with a clergyman.
  
  Anybody could translate this poem to George?
  不信美人终薄命,
  
  从来侠女出风尘。
  
  joke,joke,joke…
  Mr Pitcher, do you know that your blog becomes a joke for chinese?
  
  
  
   原文地址:
http://weiurl.com/3681
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发表于 2009-12-31 02:28 | 显示全部楼层
我浏览了欧美好几个国家的主要网站,网民们几乎一边倒地支持中国。从留言看有他们本国人也有其他国家人。
他们嬉笑怒骂对英国政府进行挖苦批评,很多人都提到了英帝国主义的二次鸦片战争。
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发表于 2009-12-31 02:43 | 显示全部楼层
Added: Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 14:26 GMT 14:26 UK
The BBC was so misleading and biased. It played again and again the Chinese won't let the body go home. The fact was he is the muslim and need to be buried within 24 hours. And China respected this. Come on, BBC, show some useful and important details which were deliberately missed in your reports.
BBC太误导和偏袒了,不断重复中国人不允许他的尸体运回国。事实是,他是穆斯林,要在24小时内下葬。中国尊重了这点。BBC,告诉我们一些被你们的报道故意漏掉的、有用而重要的细节吧。

YH, London  伦敦
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发表于 2009-12-31 03:13 | 显示全部楼层

Added: Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 12:59 GMT 12:59 UK

(译注:这一段是被引用的前一个人的评论)

Well they wouldn't murder the smuggler- thats for sure. Whatever the rights and wrongs of this case, executions are barbaric. But since when did China respect human rights?
当然,他们肯定不会谋杀走私者。不管这个案件的对错,死刑是野蛮的。但是,从什么时候起,中国开始尊重人权了?
Les H, US/UK

(译注:下面一段是回答上面一人的评论的)
some would say that they were repecting the human rights of the 2000 odd prople who this man would have killed from selling the drugs in china, but hey, that OK in your book as long as they are not british right. Let look after our own drug smuggler and bring him back here.

有的人会说他们(译注:指中国)尊重可能会被这个在中国卖毒品的人杀死的2000多个人的人权。但是,嘿,只要不是英国人的权利,那是可以的。
让我们关照我们自己的毒品走私者,把他搞回来吧。

John, Brit (英国)

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发表于 2009-12-31 03:30 | 显示全部楼层

Added: Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 12:53 GMT 12:53 UK

What would you have done to a psychotic drug dealer who causes the death of your child?
对于一个导致你孩子死亡的精神错乱的贩毒者,你将怎样做?


1. Let him go scot-free.

让他不受处罚


2. Imprison him for life (while being taxed for his medical treatment and imprisonment)

将他终身监禁(同时你被课税去付他的医疗费和入狱费) (译注:有报道说关一个囚犯一天的费用是40到300英镑。100多英镑可以住伦敦的5星级大酒店了)。


3. Lethal injection

致命注射(死刑)

Would it be wrong to do that to the dealer before he actually contributes to the death of the child ?

在毒品贩子杀死你的孩子之前对他采取这种措施有错吗?

PS: Most probably the drug dealer is psychotic since he uses his own drug anyways and every person has family, even rapists, taliban etc.

很可能毒品贩子都是精神错乱的,因为他无论如何都会消费自己的毒品,而且每个人都有家庭,甚至包括强奸犯,塔利班等等。


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 楼主| 发表于 2009-12-31 04:42 | 显示全部楼层
感谢朋友们积极的翻译~~~这是我一直在AC的一个动力!你们让我感动!
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发表于 2009-12-31 07:02 | 显示全部楼层
……,囧
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发表于 2009-12-31 08:12 | 显示全部楼层
杀人就要关6年就能出来了
天哪~
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发表于 2009-12-31 08:49 | 显示全部楼层
杀人就要关6年就能出来了
天哪~
za4686 发表于 2009-12-31 08:12

如果“行为良好”,只需要关4年。出来后无需工作,还有免费的钱用。所以在英国杀人犯是很舒服的。
被杀的那些人什么都没有,他们的亲属还要交40%的税去养杀人犯。关一个人的费用够得上住伦敦顶级的酒店了。
你说谁有人权?反正被杀的人和他们的亲属没有。
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