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倾情奉献:《开往暗处的的士》(原创中文字幕)

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发表于 2008-12-3 10:18 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
历时10数日,耗时30余小时,AC首发,倾情奉献:《开往暗处的的士》(原创中文字幕)。
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【内容提要】
2002年12月,阿富汗出租车司机迪拉瓦因被指控向美军发动了火箭弹袭击而被押进Bagram空军基地。五天后,迪拉瓦死了。人们发现尸体的腿如同泥浆一般瘫软,即使他还活着,双腿也必须马上被切除。除此之外,尸体上伤痕累累,很明显——迪拉瓦是被美军活活折磨死的。影片以这出租车司机迪拉瓦的死亡事件为故事核心,揭露了美国在阿富汗犯下了重重罪行,另外,对于美国政府关于刑讯审问的政策——特别是中央情报局关于刑罚的使用以及他们关于感觉剥夺的实验等也进行了深入的讨论。影片中既包括了反对刑讯审问的意见也包括了一些人赞同的观点

本片于2007年获第80届奥斯卡最佳纪录片奖

【翻译感言】

先看一则消息:

联合国反酷刑委员会于2008年11月3号到11月21号在日内瓦召开第41届会议。其间的11月7号和10号将专门审核中国的酷刑问题。联合国反酷刑委员会星期五表示,中国政府在酷刑问题上没有向国际人权机构提供足够的信息.反酷刑委员会成员菲丽斯-吉尔女士说,我们寻求很多信息都无法得到.美国纽约的人权活动人士刘青呼吁中国政府向联合国提供更多酷刑方面的信息:

“反酷刑委员会一致在向中国施加各种压力,促使中国在审理案件和监狱情况等这些方面公开透明。中国社会的这个角落是最黑暗、外界最难了解和知道的。”

“ 反酷刑公约”是世界八大人权公约之一,于1987年生效。中国于1988年成为该公约签署国之一,对于公约中所有防止、制止酷刑,惩罚使用酷刑者,赔偿酷刑受害人等等都有法律义务执行。联合国反酷刑委员会是“反酷刑公约”的执行机构,所有签约国都有义务每四年提交一份报告给联合国反酷刑委员会以供审核。刘青说,中国政府应该让联合国反酷刑委员会到中国监狱进行调查:

“我在看守所监狱关押过10年以上,我就知道并亲眼看到被毒打致残、毒打致死的实例,是相当多的,而施加酷刑几乎是普遍的。进入看守所、进入监狱,没有被打过、没有在肉体上遭受摧残和折磨的人几乎根本没有,人人都遭受过。”
-- 来源:自由亚洲电台


我无意为中国政府的人权记录开脱,因为在这个问题上,我们的政府确实有很多需要改进的地方。在人权问题上,我一直觉得,不同的国家,不同的制度,不同的经济发达水准,在所谓人权的问题上也应有不同的实际情况。所谓“仓廪实而知礼节”,也就是说,如果经济发展不上去,任何上层建筑方面的高谈阔论都只能是空谈。而西方媒体在批评中国人权问题的时候,往往忽略了这一点。

即使在美国这样的发达资本主义国家,他们的人权状况又怎样呢?本片反映的只是美国政府故意践踏人权、人为制造冤狱的一个缩影和侧面。有这样一个糟糕人权纪录的所谓发达的民主国家,又有什么资格对他国内政指手画脚?

翻译这部影片是极其痛苦的一个过程。在很多人看来非常血腥沉重的场景,在翻译时我去要一遍一遍地去品味和咀嚼,只是为了尽可能准确地重现英文原文。但是我相信自己的努力是值得的,因为我认为这部影片应该让更多的人观看到。

最后友情提醒一下,这部影片的分级是R级(限制级),未成年人或者心理素质差者请谨慎观看。


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发表于 2008-12-3 10:28 | 显示全部楼层
大D的沙發
強大
辛苦了
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发表于 2008-12-3 10:48 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢楼主,辛苦了
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发表于 2008-12-3 14:09 | 显示全部楼层
大D辛苦了
很有毅力啊...
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发表于 2008-12-3 16:11 | 显示全部楼层

辛苦大D,很长的片子

youku我这里看速度好像很慢
有没有办法youtube
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发表于 2008-12-3 18:55 | 显示全部楼层
好长啊!先送上一朵鲜花!
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发表于 2008-12-3 19:15 | 显示全部楼层
鲜花,掌声。
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发表于 2008-12-3 21:51 | 显示全部楼层

辛苦dakelv   
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-3 22:16 | 显示全部楼层
youtube上文件大小有限制,我想想办法。

查过了,文件大小不是问题,但是出于版权问题,我觉得还是谨慎为好。我再找另外一个地方上传吧。

原帖由 空气稀薄 于 2008-12-3 02:11 发表
youku我这里看速度好像很慢
有没有办法youtube

[ 本帖最后由 dakelv 于 2008-12-3 09:59 编辑 ]
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发表于 2008-12-3 22:47 | 显示全部楼层
这么辛苦加的分太少了,版主小气,给精华不为过,字母是他辛苦添加的呢。
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发表于 2008-12-3 22:49 | 显示全部楼层

amazing *bigthumbsup*

Big thanks to Kelv  :loveliness:

I finished it with almost all the noon-sleep time killed *ohh* you are really amazing guy, I was lost in admiration *wow* Had to tell you I did not leave the chair even I wanted. It made the air frozen, closing my breath to the death edge. Yep, we got it now, thanks for your hard jobs. And I agree with you for the most what you wrote down here, we entered, insider and more. While I dont think it is a good enough idea to prove some parts in reference to something "on China", which would make this shorten instead. Anyway, I got you, that is ok. *hug*

When sun shines you up, spots follow all the way, so you turn, trying to find a right standing to cut them, to absorb more, thats the way how to advance for a better future, for ourselves, for the moral value and more at your mind' upawake.

[ 本帖最后由 荡漾 于 2008-12-3 22:52 编辑 ]
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发表于 2008-12-3 23:29 | 显示全部楼层
半吊子英语的,在这里跪谢了。。。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-3 23:54 | 显示全部楼层
快起来,快起来,承受不起啊,呵呵

原帖由 扛着镰刀 于 2008-12-3 09:29 发表
半吊子英语的,在这里跪谢了。。。  
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-4 00:00 | 显示全部楼层
加分只是象征性的鼓励,心领了,只要这部电影对大家有帮助,这就是最好的奖励。

原帖由 ggmch 于 2008-12-3 08:47 发表
这么辛苦加的分太少了,版主小气,给精华不为过,字母是他辛苦添加的呢。
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发表于 2008-12-4 11:04 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 dakelv 于 2008-12-3 10:18 发表
人们发现尸体的腿如同泥浆一般瘫软,即使他还活着,双腿也必须马上被切除。


看到这句话时我的胃里一个劲儿的翻腾。。。还是不要看这片子了,我脆弱的神经和心灵十有八九承受不住
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发表于 2008-12-4 12:26 | 显示全部楼层
关注中——
有时间看看。
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发表于 2008-12-4 20:15 | 显示全部楼层

不得不提出更正 >_<

亲爱的楼主,留意到影片中有个亚裔,在接受采访时,为布什政府对军队使用酷刑的罪行开脱。老大你翻译的是 约翰.刘,我留意了一下,应该是 John Yoo。刚开始我第一反应是一华裔,感情上很难接受如此无耻地为暴行辩护的是华人,( 如果翻译为LIU 的话,则变成了偶本家);突然想起来Yoo 是韩国的常见姓氏。Wikipedia 了一下,果然是一个韩国人。资料如下

John Yoo
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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For the Chinese-Australian pediatrician, see John Yu.
John Yoo

John Choon Yoo (born 1967 in Seoul[1][2]) is an American professor of Law at the Boalt Hall School of Law, University of California, Berkeley, known for his work from 2001 to 2003 in the United States Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel,[3] assisting the Attorney General in his function as legal advisor to President Bush and all the executive branch agencies.

He contributed to the PATRIOT Act and wrote memos in which he advocated the possible legality of torture and that enemy combatants could be denied protection under the Geneva Conventions.[4] Yoo has also worked as a visiting scholar at the conservative think tank American Enterprise Institute since 2003.



[ 本帖最后由 Amanda2Kyle 于 2008-12-4 20:57 编辑 ]
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发表于 2008-12-4 21:57 | 显示全部楼层

看来这个 John Yoo 是相当的臭名昭著啊

竟然有个网站,叫 FIRE JOHN YOO!,  内容还相当地更新呢。



[ 本帖最后由 Amanda2Kyle 于 2008-12-4 22:27 编辑 ]
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发表于 2008-12-4 22:06 | 显示全部楼层

No Immunity For Yoo

By Linda Rigas

on December 1, 2008 9:26 PM | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBacks (0)

On October 2nd, 2008 at Columbia Law School, Attorney General Mukasey argued in favor of the government's lawyers and the decisions that were enacted and furthered by the Office of Legal Counsel after September 11th, 2001. Mukasey heeded the audience with caution-- "caution against questioning the lawyers' good faith" and "caution against second guessing the Justice Department's decisions in hindsight, beyond the heat of crisis." (Steven G. Calabresi also makes a good faith argument here.)

According to Mukasey and Calabresi, people of consciousness should ignore the illegitimate use of torture, and the legal profession should pass on any form of accountability as, "Questions national security lawyers confront are "as complex and consequential as they come. Lives and the way we live them may hang in the balance," he said. "Political leaders and the public must not forget what was asked of those lawyers seven years ago."

What we asked of lawyers seven years ago and what we ask of lawyers today is adherence to and compliance with domestic and international law. The declaration of a state of national emergency does not warrant anything less than this basic standard. John Yoo's actions cannot be overlooked merely  they dealing with particularly potent questions. The issue of torture does not rise from the sticky political process or how prosecution might destroy any morale in government by the "average" person.

The gravamen of torture is to end torture, to end the mass murder, abuse, and cruel and unusual punishment of individuals who have not been charged, whose livelihoods are in jeopardy as legal limbo lounge persists.

The legalization of torture 'shocks the conscience' of the world. The Office of Legal Counsel does not immunize John Yoo from taking responsibility for legalizing torture pursuant only to the policies that needed to be enacted by the Bush Regime to legitimate the illegitimate occupation of Iraq. John Yoo cites no legal authority to reflect domestic and international laws against torture. John Yoo's authorizations of torture were made in violation of these laws, yet the legal profession stands aside with the line that John Yoo has not acted with a culpable state of mind.

Mukasey went on to question, "where are the legal lines that will be drawn in this new and very different conflict, and as a matter of policy how close to those legal lines we should go, and whether the lines can and should be redrawn."

The legal line against torture has already been crossed and shattered in our names. There is no reason to give the Office of Legal Counsel a "golden shield" on legalizing torture. There is no evidence that points to John Yoo's good faith reasoning. In fact, as Scott Horton points out in "Golden Shield or Achilles Heel?": the evidence points to "a joint criminal enterprise, the object of which was to enable torture--the memos actually were intended to and did further the scheme. They are evidence of a crime and of criminal intent. The core of that criminal enterprise was formed and much of it was carried out inside the Justice Department."

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发表于 2008-12-4 22:10 | 显示全部楼层

ohn Yoo Acts with Impunity

By Linda Rigason November 27, 2008 9:02 PM | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBacks (0)

[size=0.8em]I[size=1.25em]n "The Truth About Torture" (July 12, 2008 in Newsweek Magazine), Stuart Taylor Jr. asserts the following: [size=1.25em]

  • [size=1.25em]"[size=1em]One can argue that officials could have or should have resigned rather than implement questionable legal judgments, but there is no evidence that any high-level official acted with criminal intent. The officials involved appear to have approved only interrogation methods found legal by administration lawyers, and in particular by the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC). According to long tradition, the OLC is considered a sort of Supreme Court of the executive branch.[size=1.25em]"
  • [size=1.25em]"[size=1em]Absent pardons, pressure to go after GOP "war criminals" would make it very hard to unite Americans of all stripes behind solutions to the many economic and social challenges facing the country. No new president--especially if he turns out to be Barack Obama, who has made such a point of getting beyond partisan bickering--needs that.[size=1em]"[size=1.25em]
[size=1em]This summation of what has led to the legalization of state-sanctioned torture and what needs to be done to END TORTURE has no basis in reality.


[size=1em]John Yoo [size=1em]acts with impunity. The notion that John Yoo did not act with criminal intent merely because he was in the OLC does not lay claim to the following facts:
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  • [size=1.25em][size=0.8em]John Yoo codified a legal definition of torture that gave the Bush Administration the institutional green light to allow and accellerate the use of "enhanced interrogation methods" that recklessly circumvents domestic and international legal principles.
  • [size=1.25em][size=0.8em]John Yoo has purposefully abrogated legal ethical principles of professional conduct as the sleeping giant of Legaldom falsely hopes that a systematic program of the widespread use of torture will go away with the next Administration.
[size=1.25em][size=0.8em][size=0.8em]
  • [size=1.25em][size=0.8em]the use of torture and abuse in violation of both domestic and international law;
  • [size=1.25em][size=0.8em]the rendition of prisoners to foreign countries to be tortured;
  • [size=1.25em][size=0.8em]the secret detentions of persons seized throughout the world;
  • [size=1.25em][size=0.8em]the mass round-up and torture methods enacted on thousands of individuals of Muslim and South Asian decent in the United States immediately following September 11, 2001 and continuing today;
  • [size=1.25em][size=0.8em]the use of military forces to seize and detain any U.S. citizens without charges on order of the President; and
  • [size=1.25em][size=0.8em]the torture and assassination of persons that the President designates anywhere in the world.
[size=1em]These realities cannot and will not merely be washed away with pardons and truth commissions. Taylor's gross mitigations--couched in bipartisan dualistic concerns-- do not seriously and critically confront and interrogate the sanctioning of torture as a pillar of endless wars for imperialization and empire.

[ 本帖最后由 Amanda2Kyle 于 2008-12-4 22:13 编辑 ]
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