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发表于 2008-5-30 07:13 | 显示全部楼层
我發了訊給西藏小子, 請他來說明一下.
因為上面資料是從大陸及wikipedia等網路上查的.
不知藏人方面, 會不會自己有分歧的說法. 沒有的話, 那流亡政府就罪名成立了!!!!
发表于 2008-5-30 15:12 | 显示全部楼层

英譯第一部份 (盡可能依照Softfun兄的原貼)

The Swindle of Dalai Lama (by XU Ming-xu)

Ever since his exile to India in 1959, Dalai Lama has been demanding the Independence of "Greater Tibet".
When US joined with China in order to counter USSRin 1972, Dalai had no choice but to change his strategy, taking a pear as an apple, naming independence-in-disguise as autonomy. His "Five Point Peace Plan" of 1987 was commented as a "insidious Independence plan" by officials of the US State Department. The "Strasbourg Proposal" in 1988 was no better, but Dalai Lama claimed he made significant compromise and renounced his independence claim. The Tibetan Government- in-exile told China's Ambassador to India,"the Strasbourg Proposal matched the spirit that Deng Xiao-Ping told Gyalo Thondup on March 12, 1979 that 'except for the independence of Tibet, all other questions can be negotiated'. (27) The Chinese Government responded neither"Five Point Peace Plan" nor "Strasbourg Proposal"represented a fundamental abandonment of Tibetan Independence, and therefore there was no foundation for negotiations. (28) Then Dalai Lama alleged that Chinese Government set precondition for negotiation, and they demanded unconditional negotiations. (29) In fact, when they expressed to China's Ambassador to India that "Strasbourg Proposal" met Deng's term, they admitted their acceptance of Deng's termas a precondition for negotiation.


The disintegration of USSR gave high hope for Dalai Lama, with their pitch getting higher and higher. On March 10, 1991, he mentioned in his Uprising Day address that, "Should Chinese Government not responding positively to his proposal in the near future, he considered himself no longer restrained by the Strasbourg Proposal".(30)

March 22, Dalai Lama brought about "Asian Democratic Community", with Tibet, Inner Mogolia and Xinjiang as individual members with equal status as China.(31)

April 16, President Bush met Dalai Lama, his posture became firmer.

August 19, Dalai Lama rescinded "Strasbourg Proposal", strongly demanded complete independence of Tibet.(32)

December 1, Ukraine held a referendum, with 90% voted for independence. Dalai Lama was in UK.The day after he was received by the Prime Minister J. Major, he foretold the press: "Complete independence of Tibet shall be realised in 5 to 10years." (33)

March 10, 1992, he addressed on Uprising Day that, " I have no doubt that one day our people, as well as the people of Inner Mongolia and East Turkestan (Xinjiang as now known) will be re-united in complete freedom in our respective countries." (34) Evidently he believed Communist China would fall like the Soviet, and China would disintegrate like the Soviet. Nevertheless, Chinese Government continued to discuss with his envoy for negotiations.

On August 11 and October 3, 1993, Dalai Lama made a press release that startled the West. Followings are details of the press releases: (Notes: this is a translation from the Chinese text.)

UPI and Reuters, August 11, 1993, New Delhi, India --- The Dalai Lama, Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, said Wednesday (Notes: archive records of UPI press release written as Wednesday, not Thursday as put by Mr. Xu. It seems this"quote" is a combination of the UPI and Reuters news and therefore is not a 100% quote from each) he would will be willing to accept limited autonomy rather than complete independence for his Himalayan homeland.
Explaining that he believed the solution lieswith autonomy in Tibet,with the Chinese looking after the defence and foreign affairs of my homeland."
The Dalai Lama said, "We want a middle path --- 'One Country Two Systems." (Note: One Country Two Systems was not in UPI's clip) The Dalai Lama said, "Autonomy is good enough for me
let the Tibetan people decide on the Independence issue."

Beijingrefuses to hold talks with the Dalai Lama until he renounces his demand for Tibetan independence. Dalai Lama said China's Ambassador to India would see him. "This is a progress," he said,"I'm very optimistic. We anticipate my envoy and this Ambassador will have serious discussion." But he said, "I will meet him only when there is real results." Dalai Lama said China asked him to help find the reincarnation of the Panchen Lama, the second most important spiritual leaders in Tibet,who died in 1989. "This can be an important turning point for what we are doing. Previously the Chinese always said locating the reincarnation of the Panchen Lama was their internal affairs,which we don't have to bother."

11 Tibetan delegations in 14 years visited China. The Dalai Lama said, the meeting last month in Beijing between Chinese officials and Gyalo Thondup, his elder brother, was good. He urged India's Prime Minister P. V. Narasimha Rao to raise the Tibetan issue in his visit to China next month.
Considering Tibet as an autonomous region of China, New Delhi prohibited those hundred thousands of Tibetan in-exile in India for anyanti-China activities. In 1991, India arrested hundreds of Tibetans for protesting China's Premier Li Peng in his visit to New Delhi.


(Notes: Attached are archive records of both press releases which we translated into Chinese as well.
Given its nature being a press release, information should have been provided by the Government-in-exile. We found there was a serious distortion of historical FACT by their claim that the 1st Panchen Lama was disciple of the 1st Dalai Lama, which simply is not true.

The first two Dalai Lamas, as well as first three Panchen Lamas were all recognized after their death, though the granting of the title "Dalai" (1578) by Chinese Ming Dynasty was earlier than that of Panchen (1645) as granted by the Qing Dynasty.
No only that these titles were granted byChinese Emperors, it was the 3rd Dalai Lama who actively sought
for such title recognition from the Ming Emperor, and his action literally admitted that he was Ming's subject and ruled by the Ming Dynasty, and thus, was part of China.

The first Panchen (1385-1438) was6 years older than the 1st Dalai (1391-1474) and was the 2nd disciple (from 1407) of Tsongkhapa (1357-1419), a legacy of Tibetan Lamaism. The 1st Dalai Lama, however, became Tsongkhapa's disciple in 1416, 9 years later than the 1st Panchen Lama.
How could a more senior disciple of the same teacher become the disciple of his junior fellow student?
The Government-in-exile even distorts their religious history to make a false representation and illusion that Dalai Lama is Panchen Lama's boss, and the reincarnation of Panchen Lama needs Dalai's recognition to become legitimate.  Well,it's not the case.
They cross each other, similar to diplomatic relations.)


UPI October 3, 1993, Calcutta ---- The Dalai Lama, Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, said Sunday the recent accord between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization could be seen as an example for resolving the problem of Tibetan autonomy.

"The past is the past -- I am looking forward" he said, "Even the Israelis and Palestinians have shed decades of hatred and violence and made peace in a spirit of reconciliation, I am quite sure that if both the Tibetans and the Chinese adopt a reasonable attitude, we shall find a harmonious solution to the problem."

Describing his proposal as "the middle path", the Tibetan god-king reiterated he was willing to accept limited autonomy for Tibet within China rather than demand complete independence for his homeland.

These 2 conversations from Dalai seem a large concession as compared with "Five Point PeacePlan" and the "Strasbourg Proposal", which both required withdrawal of Chinese troops from Tibet. The 2 conversations however allowed China looking after the defence and foreignaffairs of Tibet. He even quoted "One Country Two Systems" policy that Chinese Government promised Hong Kong and Taiwan.It seems as though acknowledging Tibet as part of China,especially when he was explicit in renouncing his independence claim in exchange for autonomy. This was completely different from his rescinding of "Strasbourg Proposal", insisting on complete independence, almost as if we were dealing with two different persons.

Why would he (at least verbally) make such turnaround? After Deng Xiaoping's visit to the South in1992, Chinese economy has been growing at tremendous speed.  Western observers who predicted the collapsing of CCP and China gradually changed their tones in saying that China would catch up with US and become the World's new super-power in the 1sthalf of the 21st century. In order to realize gains in the high growth of Chinese market, Western countries race to court with China. The Dalai Lama could only follow to change his tone. He probably did not give prior heads up notice to his staff. Attending a conference on Tibet: Religion, Conflict, and Cooperation held by the U.S.Institute of Peace on September 27-28, 1993 in Washington D.C., when I quoted and disseminated the Dalai Lama's conversation on August 11, 1993, Lodi Gyari, Dalai's chief representative to US and U.N. claimed the message was made up by the media, and that Dalai could not possibly say that (meaning renouncing independence). American professors attending the conference (all of them were renown experts on Tibetan issues or Chinese issues), though not denying the validity of such conversation, carried on discussing Tibetan independence anyhow, disregarding the Dalai Lama's new intent. It seemed as though the resolution to the Tibetan issue (independence vs autonomy) would be decided by them and not by the Dalai Lama or the Chinese Government.
发表于 2008-5-30 21:32 | 显示全部楼层
国内也应该重视揭露达 赖 集 团谎言的工作,不要让达 赖 集 团再欺骗世界了。
发表于 2008-5-30 21:33 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 ltbriar 于 2008-5-30 15:12 发表
The Swindle of Dalai Lama (by XU Ming-xu)

Ever since his exile to India in 1959, Dalai Lama has been demanding the Independence of "Greater Tibet".
When US joined with China in order to counter USSRi ...

发到英文区去。
发表于 2008-5-31 03:53 | 显示全部楼层
CIA从59年前就开始有勾结了
发表于 2008-5-31 14:30 | 显示全部楼层
很佩服楼主的观察力。
发表于 2008-5-31 14:35 | 显示全部楼层
揭露达 赖 喇 嘛的谎言。
发表于 2008-6-1 01:24 | 显示全部楼层
還沒譯完.. 徐先生的文章, 有時很不好翻.
发表于 2008-6-1 02:12 | 显示全部楼层
所谓的FREE TIBET也是打着独立的旗号的
发表于 2008-6-2 08:36 | 显示全部楼层
发到英文区去。:D
发表于 2008-6-2 10:55 | 显示全部楼层
Chinese Government's policy for the Dalai Lama is way far off what the Dalai Lama demands.  On July 28, 1981 when Hu Yaobang met Gyalo Thondup, he announced the "Five Guidelines" for the Dalai Lama: 1. Our country has sustained long term stability and economic prosperity, all the ethnic groups should unite and cooperate to enhance this new era. The Dalai Lama and his followers are intelligent and should believe it. Otherwise, they can observe a few years more. 2. The Dalai Lama and his envoy in touch with us should be sincere and not playing hide and seek or as if we are doing business negotiations.  We should muddle ourselves in past history, i.e. what happened in 1959. Let's forget about it. 3. We are sincere to welcome the Dalai Lama and his followers to return and settle, with the objective that he will support the unity of our country, enhance the unity of Tibetans with Hans nation and other ethnic groups, and contribute to the Four Modernization. 4. Should the Dalai Lama return and settle, his political status and living conditions will be the same as prior to 1959.  The Party's Central Committee can nominate him as Vice Chairperson to the National People's Congress. He'd better not return to Tibet, nor take up any position in Tibet. Of course he can make frequent visit to Tibet. 5. It's up to the Dalai Lama as to when he returns. He can make a brief press release, the content of which is up to him to decide. (35)

Hu's message was for external (audiences).  On October 2, 1984, T.A.R. Party Committee published the policy guidelines of the Central Government towards the Dalai Lama for internal reference.  The main contents were: 1. As Dalai flee the country, he launched "Tibetan Independence" abroad, and spread a lot of misrepresentation.  He undermined interest of his country and the Tibetans. He also ruined his name. 2. We will continue to work with him, and try to make him turn around for the better. Those of his followers willing to return to their homeland, we would welcome them all.  For those who settled for good, we would facilitate them properly. For those who again wanted to leave, we would see them off with courtesy.  We would welcome for their early return, and wait if they delayed it. We would try our best to convince them if they decided not to come back, but would object to any separatism. 3. Central Government's Five Guidelines for the Dalai Lama remained unchanged. 4. Tibet is an inseparable part of the People's Republic of China. Independence in whole or in part shall not be permissible. The "9 guiding principles" for Taiwan (poster's note: i.e. "One Country, Two System") is not applicable to Tibet. Tibet and Taiwan are both inseparable part of China, but there is a big distinction. Tibet, being an autonomous region under the governance of the Central Government, was liberated for over 30 years, with democratic and socialistic reform in practice, and the old system (theocracy) abandoned. U.S. tries to induce "One China One Taiwan", still there are some who tries for "One China, One Taiwan One Tibet". These are absolutely not permissible, neither is "Greater Tibet Autonomy Region" realistic or possible. 5. The Dalai Group, with their hidden intention, repeatedly suggested to send young intellects abroad back to Tibet to teach (poster's notes: teaching Tibetan language). Our answer is: they are welcome to come back to work, but they must admit they are Chinese, agree to be assigned, and be prepared to stay for long term. (poster's notes: The Dalai Group dropped this idea once they learned the requirement for Tibetan teachers to admit themselves being Chinese.) 6. Negotiation doe not exist between the Central Government and the Dalai Lama. (36)

Perhaps realising prohibiting the Dalai Lama's residence in Tibet being too strong in Hu Yaobang's "Five Guidelines", Zhao Ziyang amended and expressed on a press conference during the National People's Congress on April 4, 1988 that, "There is no change to the Central Government's Five Guidelines with respect to the policy toward the Dalai Lama made explicit previously. What is the prerequisite for the Dalai Lama to return to China, to return to Tibet? There is only one which is he must denounce any engagement in Tibet Independence, admit Tibet is part of China, and fend for and strengthen China's unity together with all brothers from ethnic groups throughout China, and work together for a socialist China and socialist Tibet. This is the only condition. With this condition, his political status after returning to China: as a National People's Congress Vice Chairperson been stipulated by the Central Government. As for his residence, according to our Constitution, any citizen shall have the freedom to live where he/she wants. He can reside in Beijing or Tibet as he wishes, but the foregoing condition must be fulfilled. If he now accepts the terms in hope of coming back to continue separatism movement, we cannot agree to that. Therefore, if he insists in independence, insists on separatism, then the foregoing shall hold no more.  When there isn't a foundation for discussion, then there is nothing worth discussing." (37)

CCP used to proclaim: "Only Socialism can save Tibet." Should the Dalai Lama be allowed to return to Tibet and practise "One Country, Two Systems", wouldn't it imply Socialism is useless for Tibet, and then further jeopardizing the claim "Only Socialism can save China"? (Hong Kong has been under Capitalism, allowing it another 50 years of Capitalism is not a problem for CCP). When CCP refused to let him returning to Tibet with "One Country, Two Systems" but just a mere position as Vice Chairperson to the National People's Congress, backed by foreign powers, how can the Dalai Lama possibly accept the offer? It was unrealistic and naive for CCP 's attempt to "lure" him. The result was practically giving in to the Dalai Lama, making him more arrogant and proud. It also give local Tibetans an impression that "CCP was afraid of the Dalai Lama", causing them to worship him more. The Dalai Lama actually has nothing in his pocket, he has everything to gain, but nothing to lose. CCP has Tibet under its governance, if negotiating with the Dalai Lama, it has nothing to gain, but only something to lose. Such simple reasoning, but CCP did not realize.

It was strange that when the Dalai Lama spoke on August 11, 1993 pulling back from "Five Point Peace Plan" and "Strasbourg Proposals", when China's Ambassador to India was prepared to meet him, and when the Dalai Lama expressed he was "very optimistic" , he suddenly suspended contact with the Chinese Government unilaterally, and shut the door for negotiation. (38). Nobody knows why till know. I think perhaps the Tibetan Government-in-exile after hearing the Dalai Lama's foregoing conversation, feared that he would actually recognize China's sovereignty over Tibet and reach agreement with CCP, and they just abruptly halt the liaison with the Chinese Government. The Tibetan Government-in-exile had been controlled by "young Tibetans", who either born in India or left Tibet at the age of 10 or younger, that have no personal experience with Tibet natural environment or community. They have no idea that Tibet cannot be independent politically or economically, but they have been fed by the Dalai Lama's misrepresentation such as "Tibet has always been an independent country", "China killed 1.2 million Tibetans". Having been stuffed with freedom, democracy, self-determination, independence and hatred towards China in their mind, they definitely would not allow the Dalai Lama to come into agreement with the Chinese Government. The Dalai Lama was collecting his bitter harvest from the seeds of hatred he sowed, and became hostage of the Tibetans in-exile that he brood. It was also possible that Western Human Rights advocates worried the Dalai Lama reached agreement with the Chinese Government, and instruct the "Tibetan Government-in-exile" to cut the liaison with the Chinese Government to prevent the Dalai Lama from negotiation. Thus, the Dalai Lama also became the hostage of the foreign masters whom he had turned. Therefore, it was not the Chinese Government obstructing negotiations, but the Dalai Lama's own followers or forces at their back.

It is more peculiar that despite Dalai camp unilaterally closed the door for discussion, the Dalai Lama continuously and persistently called upon the Chinese Government for dialogue, and repeated over and over again that all he wanted was autonomy, not independence, that he was willing to accept the "Middle Path" and "One Country, Two Systems".  For example, June 6, 1994, he told Chen Wangwei, a reporter from Central Daily News that he was willing to accept "One Country, Two Systems" with China responsible for defence and foreign affairs of Tibet. (39) In his visit to Taiwan in March 1997, he also said he did not want independent. (40) After Hong Kong's return to China on July 1, 1997, he remarked again, he saw from "One Country, Two Systems" the solution to Tibet issue. (41)  At the same time, he continued lecturing around the World, trying his best to publicize that Tibet has always been an independent country, criticizing China migration to Tibet, genocide of Tibet culture, killing 1.2 million Tibetans etc. He even called to hold a referendum by Tibetans in determining Tibet's future. (42) --- of course, the Tibet he referred to means the "Greater Tibet". By putting aside the fact the over half of the total population in the "Greater Tibet" consisted of 17 non-Tibetan ethnic groups, and only allowing Tibetans to vote for the future of Tibet, this is such a calculating and vicious mind. If the future of Northern Ireland could be decided by the Catholic there alone, Northern Ireland had been independent or joined Ireland already. If the future of Quebec lies on the vote of the French descends alone, Quebec would have been independent as well. However, this is permitted neither by international law nor international public opinion. The Dalai Lama wanted to deprive the voting right of those people of 17 non-Tibetan ethnic groups, over half of the total population, that have inhibited in the "Greater Tibet" region since ancient time – what a autocratic dictatorship and violation of human rights unheard of.
发表于 2008-6-2 12:23 | 显示全部楼层
要求在XZ减少喇嘛数量, 多办学校和医院,关掉部分寺庙,留少量的作旅游用。
发表于 2008-6-3 02:52 | 显示全部楼层
多办学校和医院,关掉部分寺庙
发表于 2008-6-5 03:38 | 显示全部楼层
揭露达 赖 喇 嘛的谎言。
发表于 2008-6-5 17:00 | 显示全部楼层
新闻说很多罪犯在寺庙里面
发表于 2008-6-6 05:25 | 显示全部楼层
In fact, when they expressed to China's Ambassador to India that "Strasbourg Proposal" met Deng's term, they admitted their acceptance of Deng's termas a precondition for negotiation.
发表于 2008-6-6 11:46 | 显示全部楼层
大家以為一個家庭能出幾個活佛????

一會給大家揭曉, 真的不是仁波切, 而是人多..... 切!!!
发表于 2008-6-6 12:03 | 显示全部楼层

點到你唔服? 活佛居然像種馬種豬, 獨家專利的

9個孩子出5個活佛, 居然還有一個還俗的, 服嗎???
三個哥哥都知道當靈童是什麼回事, 大人教他說, 這是我的, 是我的, 會有多難??

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%B9%E5%A2%9E%E5%98%89%E6%8E%AA

他們和一些漢族人種植一些大麥、蕎麥、馬鈴薯等農作物,生活不穩定。丹增嘉措是九個孩子中的第五個,最大的孩子是他的姐姐澤仁多瑪(Tsering Dolma),比丹增嘉措大18歲。他最大的哥哥名土登居美諾布(Thupten Jigme Norbu),已被認定為高級喇嘛塔澤仁波切(Takser Rinpoche,是賦予精神領袖的頭銜),他其他的兄長包括二哥嘉樂頓珠、三哥羅桑三旦(Gyalo Thondup and Lobsang Samten),均為「活佛」。

http://www.backchina.com/newspage/2008/05/28/157015.shtml
在一段錄像中,他洋洋自得地說:「我叫丹增曲傑,1945年,也就是我哥哥達賴喇嘛率全家從青海搬到拉薩的第五年,出生在拉薩。我3歲時被認定為仁波切(即活佛),6歲那年被帶往寺廟供養,7歲正式接受全面的藏傳佛教傳統教育。我的孩提時代基本上是在背書中度過的,後來又開始學習辯論術。1956年至1959年,我又被送進西藏的佛學院讀書,並被認定為阿里活佛。」
14歲那年,也就是1959年,丹增曲傑跟著達賴叛逃到印度。不過,令人大跌眼鏡的是,丹增曲傑並沒有繼續接受宗教教育,而是進入由加拿大人開辦的天主教聖約瑟學校學習。該校當時的校長後來回憶說,這個年輕人「很快就忘掉了以前所受的教育」。
極具諷刺意味的是,當達賴受到外逃藏民頂禮膜拜時,他的弟弟卻決然要求還俗。有知情者透露,當時,丹增曲傑這一決定,動搖了不少逃到印度的西藏人的信仰,也對達賴產生了不利影響。
不過,還俗後的丹增曲傑,先是牽頭組建了「藏青會」,後又於1974年出任該組織的第二屆主席。然而,僅一年後,他就對此失去了興趣。他想過一種更「刺激」、更「狂熱」的生活。於是,印藏特種邊境部隊便成了他生命中的下一站。
发表于 2008-6-6 13:50 | 显示全部楼层

Part 3

The Dalai Lama every now and then emitted voices for independence. He told Taiwan's reporter he was touched by support for Tibetan Independence from certain Taiwanese, but he could not say it openly. He told Yu Jan-daw, DPP M.P. (Taiwan), "There will always be hope for Tibetan Independence." (44) and the same time, publications and speeches of the "officers" from the Tibetan Government-in-exile continued their propaganda for Tibetan Independence, as if the Dalai Lama had never mentioned giving up independence, or as if the Tibetan Government-in-exile was no longer under his leadership.

For instance, over the "Han-Tibetan Dialogue" held in Bonn, June 21-22, 1996 and in London October 11-12, 1997, despite my presentation and my article distributed that quoted and made reference to the English version of the foregoing 2 messages the Dalai Lama made in 1993, Sonam Dabo,officer of "the Tibetan Government-in-exile in-charge of international relations and propaganda" kept mentioning "Five Point Peace Plan" and the "Strasbourg Proposal" (as mentioned previously, these 2 proposals required Chinese disarming from Tibet, and therefore is a plan of independence, which US States Department so recognized), without a word mentioned on the Dalai Lama's later statement of accepting autonomy only, giving up Independence and allowing Chinese Government to deal with Defence and Foreign Affairs (as evidenced by his presentation and article distributed in the meeting). On a later session, Tsegyam, director of ministry of security research institute of the Tibetan Government-in-exile said, "As 'One Country Two Systems" encompasses the concept of Tibet being part of China in principle this kind of autonomy is hardly acceptable for Tibet. According to the history described earlier, Tibet and China were two different countries, the law for future Tibetan autonomy must also be drafted by Tibetans. Therefore it is impossible for the resolution of Tibetan issue by applying "One Country Two Systems" directly, but it can serve as a reference and precedent such that through negotiation, we can find a compromised way to resolve the dispute between China and Tibet." (45) He clearly did not accept the "One Country Two Systems" that the Dalai Lama pleaded from the Chinese Government. The other officers from the exile government all liberally expressed freedom, self-determination, independence, ignoring the Dalai Lama's statement of giving up independence.

The "Young Tibetans" within the Tibetan-in-exile show steady disrespect of the Dalai Lama. Pun tsok wang gyel who had been the Dalai Lama's representative to the U.K.said, "they believe the Dalai Lama knows everything, the past, the present, the future. He is god, so he won't make mistake. But I don't believe this. Of course I'm a Buddhist, but for me, he is just an ordinary person. Therefore, he has his merits and demerits. I often tell my folks, the Dalai Lama is aging.
We have to ask this question : if he is a reincarnated Buddha or not? However, his physical condition is not so well, nobody thinks about this issue. At the same time, if he makes mistakes, we have to ask this question. When he makes mistakes, we are obligated to remind him."  (46) By mistake of the Dalai Lama, he meant giving up independence verbally.

Goldstein once criticized the leader of Tibetans in exile over estimatedtheir capability, very naïve. (47) However from the perspective of beneficial interest, the continuous whooping for independence has its practical purpose. The louder they make, the more money they receive from Western human rights camp, and hence better living they will enjoy. Should they stop their whoop, no money from foreign patrons, and they will cease to exit.

Of course the double-dealing of the Dalai Lama could not lure Chinese Government's trusting him really giving up independence. Therefore Chinese Government has always been putting the Dalai Lama's open admission that Tibet is an indivisible partof China, ceasing of separatism activities as preamble for holding any discussion with him, and the Dalai Lama firmly refused to make such promise. On December 27,1992 the Dalai Lama told AFP reporters in Paris, "If they (poster's notes: meaning Chinese Government) are willing to see my delegates, then let's start negotiating. But if they still insist I must announce and declare Tibet is an indivisible part of China, I will not." On November 1, 1997 when Jiang Zemin gave a speech at Harvard, somebody asked why he did not have dialogue with the Dalai Lama, he said, "I think our policy toward Dalai has been very clear. He has to openly admit Tibet is an indivisible part o  the People's Republic of China, openly denouncing Tibetanindependence, and ceasing every and all separatist activities. However very regrettably I feel the Dalai Lama hasn't done so and he has never stopped in any separatist activities of his Motherland." (48) Two days later, Tsewang C. Tethong (the Foreign Minister of the Tibetan Government in Exile) made a statement that, "Chairman Jiang Zemin demanded the Dalai Lama in admitting Tibet as an indivisible part of China, which is the same as demanding the Dalai Lama to rewrite the Tibetan history and accept the saying that historically Tibet has been a part of China. The Dalai Lama will never do that. He always says that this is lying and as a Buddhist, he cannot lie." (49)

The United Nations and all countries in the World recognize Tibet as apart of China, this is a legal issue that nobody can deny. The Charter of the United Nations stipulates "All Members shall refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state" The demand of the Dalai Lama to admit Tibetas an indivisible part of Chinaby the Chinese Government is in accordance with the international law and the Charter of the United Nations. On June 27, 1998, as soon as Jiang Zemin reinstated the foregoing requirement in a joint press conference with Clinton and further demanded the Dalai Lama admitting Taiwan as one of China's provinces, Clinton followed right a way, "I agree that Tibet is part of China, being one of Chinese autonomy regions. I can understand the reason why such admission is a pre-condition for opening up dialogue with the Dalai Lama." (50) June 29, theTibetan Government-in-exile recognized that the Dalai Lama was "not seeking for independence" on one hand, and insisted to demand on the other hand that their discussion with Chinese Government shall be unconditional. (51) They didn't even accept the pre-condition that Clinton agreed, illustrating that they basically were not serious about any dialogue, and spurned international lawand President Clinton. (Poster'snotes: just being trouble makers)

The facts that Dalai said he only wanted autonomy and not independence, and that they refused to admit Tibet being a part of China are self-conflicting. Text materials in American political science all state that the preamble for autonomy is recognizing the sovereignty of the Central government over the autonomy region; the "Dictionary of American Government and Politics" defines: autonomy (self-governance) is short of independence, autonomy is a certain level of right to administer internal affairs of certain region within a sovereignty state. (52) Since the Dalai Lama refused to admit China's sovereignty over Tibet, their alleged autonomy is merely independence in disguise, a well planned swindle anda trap hidden with deadly motives. Tenzin Choegyal, younger brother of theDalai Lama revealed the Dalai Lama's strategy in one shot when interviewed by Pierre-AntoineDonnet (Notes: French reporter), "First we demand autonomy, then we drive the Chinese away! same way as the British were driven away from India! Autonomy shall be a starting point." (53) The ideal of the Dalai Lama is first to return for "autonomy" in "the Greater Tibet" without admitting Tibet being part of China, and then declare independence reacting 1959 event again, once they are established. He took both Jiang Zemin and Clinton as fools, and this is the basic reason why there can't be any dialogue between the Chinese Government and the Dalai Lama.

Just like the Tibetans-in-exile have economic consideration in continuous whoops for independence, the Dalai Lama also has economic consideration in his verbal denouncement of independence. He has realized if Tibet becomes independent completely, he has nothing to support the living of Tibetans now fed by the Chinese Government, not to mention accommodating theTibetans-in-exile. Invited by Orville Schell, Dean of UC Berkley, School of Journalismin 1997, he mentioned in his visit to Taiwan in March 1997 he discussed with the leader of DPP, "I also told them my opinion on Taiwan Independence. Emotion-wise, everybody wants for independence, however it is not correct to handle this issue emotionally. We must remain sober in evaluating this issue from economic perspectives. First we hardly have what it takes for complete independence. Taiwan's economy relies heavily on China Tibet has thesame situation as well. I think, even for the long term interest, economic interest of Tibet, we should handle the relationship with China on this basis. Tibet is a inland country with vast territory, scarce population, and difficult transportation, but with rich natural resource endowment as well. For more speedy physical establishment, if we cooperate with a more advanced stronger country, we shall have more benefit than complete independence. This is my bottom-line, my rationale for seeking true autonomy and not independence." The Dalai Lama even took one step back from "Tibet has been an independent country from historical time." He said, "my stance is seeking real autonomy, not independence. Of course, I believe Tibet historically has been an independent nation. It takes historians and legal professions, not politicians, to answer if Tibet was a part of Chinaor not. There are a lot of questions to be answered if we look at the past. Therefore, the best is to forget the past. Those are history, and we should look ahead, so that even 2 entirely unrelated nations can easily united to become one country.This is my basic stance." (54)



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